Thanks for the links. Am already subscribed to the first two. However, the third definitely looks promisingparadiddle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:54 pm here's another one: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnZEv3 ... g/featured
also: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrRI1a ... gpibT6pQGQ
karate snoopy: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr4dj5 ... ?query=vcv
VCV Rack is now a VST Host!!
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
I do get the basic layout of a synth, but i am really a noob when it comes to anything but basic patch manipulation/tweaking. Going modular would also give me some chops in that regard.vurt wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:00 pmel-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:47 pmCheers! I wouldn't ask unless I was sure I would at least give it some effort. I will see if I can find some of his stuff that uses free modules only, and go from there.paradiddle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:41 pm This guy is a goldmine of info on modular systems and he's certainly willing to help anybody. He's a nice chap.
you know the basic layout of a synth?
oscillator/filter/fx/output...
the rest is just modulation really.
once your comfortable there, just plug shit in!!!
seriously, once you get past the "why wont it make any noise what so ever?" bugs newbies have, its easy.
the major benefit to software experimenting as well is, you are not going to blow anything up
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- KVRian
- 1461 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK
Can anyone recommend a good kazoo VST for this?
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.
Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.
Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt
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- KVRian
- 1461 posts since 26 Jun, 2002 from London, UK
That's quite a list. Thank you. I shall go through them this weekend and report back.
Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc: http://charlesdickens.neocities.org/
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.
Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt
£10 for lifetime updates including wavetable editor for Windows.
Music: https://soundcloud.com/markholt
- KVRAF
- 1793 posts since 9 Apr, 2011
- KVRian
- 571 posts since 14 Nov, 2005 from León, Spain
I don't get that. Hardware synths can not be loaded inside Ableton either, and that does not make them useless. VCV rack is working well here with the audio bridge and virtual midi cables. Not ideal, but far from useless.mholloway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:59 pm the "amazing world in which we live" -- you mean the one in which VCV Rack can't be loaded inside a DAW because of the "limitations of the VST format," per its devs? Yeah, amazing, truly. Still waiting on their explanation of those "limitations"...
Yeah yeah, it's FREE, I know. But until I can load it inside Ableton, it's useless to me.
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
- KVRAF
- 6098 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
VCV rack is just as awesome as a standalone tool
People complaing that it can't be loaded in their precious ableton need to lighten up
See it as a modular ( seriously ? ) , create stuff , resample it , load in your sampler etc...
People complaing that it can't be loaded in their precious ableton need to lighten up
See it as a modular ( seriously ? ) , create stuff , resample it , load in your sampler etc...
Eyeball exchanging
Soul calibrating ..frequencies
Soul calibrating ..frequencies
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- KVRAF
- 2300 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
Uhh....true, hardware synths can't be loaded as plugins, but the whole point here is that VCV is SOFTWARE and yet it can't be loaded as a plugin. Your comparison is....very very strange. Hardware is not software, and vice versa; I'm well aware of this... my expectation for a software instrument is that I can load it in my audio host where I compose my music.JoseC. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:11 pmI don't get that. Hardware synths can not be loaded inside Ableton either, and that does not make them useless. VCV rack is working well here with the audio bridge and virtual midi cables. Not ideal, but far from useless.mholloway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:59 pm the "amazing world in which we live" -- you mean the one in which VCV Rack can't be loaded inside a DAW because of the "limitations of the VST format," per its devs? Yeah, amazing, truly. Still waiting on their explanation of those "limitations"...
Yeah yeah, it's FREE, I know. But until I can load it inside Ableton, it's useless to me.
Imagine if NI announced tomorrow that Reaktor would no longer be available as a plugin, and would only work in standalone mode, because of the "limitations of the VST format." Would you guys go "no biggie! it's just as good this way!" or would you think "damn, that's incredibly inconvenient and annoying!" Yeah........
- KVRian
- 642 posts since 22 Jun, 2018
I never use Reaktor as a plugin, I always use the standalone version. Pure Data doesn't run as a VST either, yet I use it a lot. Different people have different workflows and different needs. It's cool if it isn't for you, but realize that it might not be the case for everyone else.
I mainly use Live as a sequencer and I personally don't want to sequence a modular, so I wouldn't have a need for VCV Rack as a VST plugin. Blurring the line between sequencing and sound synthesis is one of the main things that attracts me to modular stuff.
All that being said, there is a VST version of VST Rack, as far as I know.
I mainly use Live as a sequencer and I personally don't want to sequence a modular, so I wouldn't have a need for VCV Rack as a VST plugin. Blurring the line between sequencing and sound synthesis is one of the main things that attracts me to modular stuff.
All that being said, there is a VST version of VST Rack, as far as I know.
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- KVRAF
- 3251 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
I use to use the Loopback featured of my Focusrite Pro 14 audio interface with Reason 7 and the loopmidi utility for triggering MIDI between Reasons Midi Out Device and Reaktor 5. Thus routing the audio from Reaktor into Reason and having Reason able to trigger any recorded notes back to play in Reaktor. It was more of a workaround, but it did work although one had to watch the volume levels or you would get a maximum blow out.
It was one of the major reasons I switched to a DAW with true VST support and so I could use Reaktor and it's ensembles directly in the software rather than sit standalone out side it. If I'm recording vocals with native instruments Razor and by that I mean with it's vocoder ability, it's simpler just to load up separately and record what I need that way and then drag the waveform into Studio One. But otherwise everything else Reaktor wise for music production is used as a instrument within the Reaktor shell in the DAW.
As for the modular side, I actually have an on going project which I started several years ago which is very big, there's no floating cables however... and my interest in connecting wires has really just worn out after 13 and half years of doing that with Reason. Wiring stuff up in Reaktor just feels very different, much deeper from the node level, you're not really thinking with a musical mindset, but that of an electrical engineer to make things work as an end goal. And the benefit is that, one can test it out inside the DAW to see what happens.
I find Reaktor Block's as a bit of a side step than a move forward.. I just don't find myself using Blocks in my music, as they feel rather heavy CPU wise. From what the OP has posted with this software, I kinda get the impression that it's much the same.
In addition to the discussion of software that sits outside of that of the DAW separately, I have two workstation synthesizers that are directly routed and piped into Studio One's audio in ports. There's no setting up involved and virtually no CPU load to drag down the processing power of my PC... In that sense I don't feel external applications like this sit well with how I like to work now.
It was one of the major reasons I switched to a DAW with true VST support and so I could use Reaktor and it's ensembles directly in the software rather than sit standalone out side it. If I'm recording vocals with native instruments Razor and by that I mean with it's vocoder ability, it's simpler just to load up separately and record what I need that way and then drag the waveform into Studio One. But otherwise everything else Reaktor wise for music production is used as a instrument within the Reaktor shell in the DAW.
As for the modular side, I actually have an on going project which I started several years ago which is very big, there's no floating cables however... and my interest in connecting wires has really just worn out after 13 and half years of doing that with Reason. Wiring stuff up in Reaktor just feels very different, much deeper from the node level, you're not really thinking with a musical mindset, but that of an electrical engineer to make things work as an end goal. And the benefit is that, one can test it out inside the DAW to see what happens.
I find Reaktor Block's as a bit of a side step than a move forward.. I just don't find myself using Blocks in my music, as they feel rather heavy CPU wise. From what the OP has posted with this software, I kinda get the impression that it's much the same.
In addition to the discussion of software that sits outside of that of the DAW separately, I have two workstation synthesizers that are directly routed and piped into Studio One's audio in ports. There's no setting up involved and virtually no CPU load to drag down the processing power of my PC... In that sense I don't feel external applications like this sit well with how I like to work now.
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- KVRian
- 571 posts since 14 Nov, 2005 from León, Spain
As I said above, it is not ideal, but it was initially meant to be STANDALONE software. And free, by the way. There are a lot of software sound design platforms that are STANDALONE and cannot be operated from inside a DAW, or were not for a long time. I am thinking of Nodal, Max/MSP, Pure Data, SuperCollider...the list goes on and on. That does not make them useless. Inconvenient, maybe. But there are some creative advantages in that, once you accept it.mholloway wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:04 amUhh....true, hardware synths can't be loaded as plugins, but the whole point here is that VCV is SOFTWARE and yet it can't be loaded as a plugin. Your comparison is....very very strange. Hardware is not software, and vice versa; I'm well aware of this... my expectation for a software instrument is that I can load it in my audio host where I compose my music.JoseC. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:11 pmI don't get that. Hardware synths can not be loaded inside Ableton either, and that does not make them useless. VCV rack is working well here with the audio bridge and virtual midi cables. Not ideal, but far from useless.mholloway wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:59 pm the "amazing world in which we live" -- you mean the one in which VCV Rack can't be loaded inside a DAW because of the "limitations of the VST format," per its devs? Yeah, amazing, truly. Still waiting on their explanation of those "limitations"...
Yeah yeah, it's FREE, I know. But until I can load it inside Ableton, it's useless to me.
Imagine if NI announced tomorrow that Reaktor would no longer be available as a plugin, and would only work in standalone mode, because of the "limitations of the VST format." Would you guys go "no biggie! it's just as good this way!" or would you think "damn, that's incredibly inconvenient and annoying!" Yeah........
Anyway, I understand your expectations, everyone have theirs. About your Reaktor comparison, that is a straw man. Of course being taken away options is not acceptable, that has nothing to do with this. And when VCV rack can be used as VST, I will use it.
But in the meantime, I can live with it as it is now, it is a great piece of software. I have two screens, so I can have my DAW side by side with VCV Rack. My default template has all the connections set up, so I just open the VCV Rack patch and I am ready to go. I can send midi notes and Cc automation from the DAW, and record back the VCV Rack audio. I can also send audio from the DAW to VCV Rack for processing. Not useless, I think.
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- KVRAF
- 1583 posts since 15 Aug, 2001 from montreal, canada
Yep the karate snoopy as lots of tuts. I had to make a search on his channel cuz it's mixed up. Happy patching! Well worth the fun and perhaps one day, the real thing. I know I'm thinking about it but $$$.
Cheers
Cheers
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:14 pmThanks for the links. Am already subscribed to the first two. However, the third definitely looks promisingparadiddle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:54 pm here's another one: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnZEv3 ... g/featured
also: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrRI1a ... gpibT6pQGQ
karate snoopy: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr4dj5 ... ?query=vcv
Stuck in Aperture Laboratories for a 2nd time!
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- KVRAF
- 1583 posts since 15 Aug, 2001 from montreal, canada
VCV is cpu heavy. I'm using on both mac and win and on the MBP, i have to load vcv in low res in order to calm the cpu fan. It was running like crazy.
THE INTRANCER wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:39 am
I find Reaktor Block's as a bit of a side step than a move forward.. I just don't find myself using Blocks in my music, as they feel rather heavy CPU wise. From what the OP has posted with this software, I kinda get the impression that it's much the same.
In addition to the discussion of software that sits outside of that of the DAW separately, I have two workstation synthesizers that are directly routed and piped into Studio One's audio in ports. There's no setting up involved and virtually no CPU load to drag down the processing power of my PC... In that sense I don't feel external applications like this sit well with how I like to work now.
Stuck in Aperture Laboratories for a 2nd time!
- KVRAF
- 2752 posts since 15 Feb, 2017 from a worn out vinyl groove
That could get recursive.