C3 or not C3, that is the question.

[jmg8]

Some synths have a compensated octave shift for presets. What I mean by this is:
If I play C3 for a high pitched lead sound it sounds right, then if I change to a bass sound I can also keep using C3 and it will sound right. This is because the presets have been placed in the right octave so that it sounds correct with C3.
Other synths do not use this technique and instead the user has to play C1 or C4 depending on the preset type.

For me I prefer the first option as it just makes things more convenient when browsing through presets. To be able to just keep the same note and it works for all sounds is faster.

So, I wanted to know how others felt about this?
Should it be a requirement for MSoundFactory instrument and preset creators?

[masitito]

You mean that bass presets come with all OSCs tuned down one or two octaves? Don't like that. If I play a MIDI note I want to hear exactly that note. Currently it is confusing enough for me that C3 isn't even the same pitch in all DAWs and synth beacuse of the differences on how to name MIDI note #0.

Masi

[steve2KVR]

...my suggestion some time ago was to allow for a global choice for each user, this was in reference to only the Melda universe.../s~

[Whywhy]

Just assign the global octave to a Pm with a lock option, it's useful for presets browsing .
Personally, I prefer to have all instruments into their natural note range, when you compose and works with the midi editor, in a global view, it's more easy to have each instrument at their place.you can edit quickly all part, and none are hiden by the others.

[operator]

Personally, I prefer to have all instruments into their natural note range, when you compose and works with the midi editor, in a global view, it's more easy to have each instrument at their place.you can edit quickly all part, and none are hiden by the others.

YES, THIS...

[MeldaProduction]

Well as whywhy suggested, we can already do that if we decide! There's the global pitch shift in the Globals afterall, with a handy lock next to it, so... If every preset was made WITH C3 in mind, hence shifted, when if you don't want that, just lock it with zero and you are done . But I'm not sure how useful that is anyways, I have 8 octaves here

[dmbaer]

It seems to me this issue is only relevant when it comes to presets in the Bass category. It is very common practice (but not universal practice) for sound designers to shift their bass presets up one octave (sometimes two octaves) so the user does not need to make their controller shift an octave.

To me this seems like a good standard, and I would endorse making it part of the "MSF good practices in sound design" document that I hope we will in fact see one day.

[MeldaProduction]

Sounds logical!

[jmg8]

Well as whywhy suggested, we can already do that if we decide! There's the global pitch shift in the Globals afterall, with a handy lock next to it, so... If every preset was made WITH C3 in mind, hence shifted, when if you don't want that, just lock it with zero and you are done . But I'm not sure how useful that is anyways, I have 8 octaves here

I can not understand this. How would locking a global pitch keep all the presets in the same octave?

[MeldaProduction]

It would assume that preset would have the Octaves set to say +1 for basses. So then you set it to 0 and lock it...

[Alphacodex]

Dont forget that if for example bass sounds would sound the bets at C3 and you have some other melody also playing around C3 everything will stacked on top of each other when you open them together in an MIDI Editor. Also not ideal, when composing...