The Collective - create user collsample files

[maverik2k73]

Hello community,

is there someone out there who has experience with creating custom samples for The Collective vst Instrument?

I know that you can import *.wav files (even with integrated loops), but the manual speaks about samplemaps and so on. I know, that the includes samples are stored in *.collsample files.
These files include samplemaps, meaning, that with different velocity (or key), other sample files are played (like e.g. in the all known sfz files)

Is there some way to create these collsample files?

If this would be possible, i think that "the collective" is probably the most underrated (and underused) vst instrument, being able to produce (almost) every sound.

Thanks

[maverik2k73]

I already found out, that you can use *.sf2 files (containing ONLY 1 Instrument).
Also .sfz Files are shown, but i haven't found a way, that these files are really used.

Maybe you know other ways to use multisample files? is there a way to import something form the multi-samper?

Thanks

[zzz00m]

Since Collective and Biotek share the same synth engine, these Biotek related comments may contain some useful info on supported user sample formats. I did not run across any further info on the proprietary collsample, acktionsample, & biotek2sample formats used by the factory samples. I suspect that they will not be available for the end user.

Developer comments on Biotek sample formats:
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=507549&p=7117306#p7117306

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=493193&p=6924259#p6924259

[Wolfram Franke]

Hi everyone,

zzz00m's reply is absolutely correct.

Wolfram

[zzz00m]

Hi everyone,

zzz00m's reply is absolutely correct.

Wolfram

Thanks Wolfram!

And I agree that Collective appears to be an underrated synth. Even though I recently upgraded Biotek to Biotek2, which is an amazingly deep synth, there are times that I still find Collective to be both a simple, yet powerful synth. Perhaps because it is bundled with the DAW, and it can be overshadowed by its bigger sibling, it does not get noticed as much as perhaps deserved.

Before I had Biotek, I had mixed a few field recorded environmental samples in layers with synth pad layers in Collective for some interesting ambient results. Plenty of oscillators and layers to work with, although certainly not with the modulation options of Biotek. But sometimes it is good to keep things simple and straightforward.

Both tools have earned a place in my kit. Well done!