DUNE 3 is now available!!

[rodanmusic]

So far undecided on whether I will update or not.

The new GUI is nice, but the rest of the updates I don't have much use for. The new filters sound nice too I guess.

[JunSev]

Always the same people destroy threads with copy protection whining. Always the same ones, just check the threads for each popular synth and the same "intellectuals" have same agenda - they are never satisfied with any kind of protection. You know what, you are one out of the million who has a problem, 99% of people have no issue with protection whatsoever, so, basically that means you should adapt and not vice versa. Mods are very generous on this site, if I were on mods positions, someone would get banned easily. Its like they are trolling on purpose.

One of the stupidest opinions I read in a while. Hopefully you'll never become mod, whereever.

For real, one of the most blind commentaries, it seems tha the agenda comes from him because "is better to be dependent of the companies completely" every time you want activate the plug-ins you paid for.

And 99% of people doesn't have issues with copy protection? where this information comes from? continue creating things in your imaginary mind, copy protection is a serious issue and people have understandable concerns about their investment and best preservation of those software without dependency of companies or greedy entities. With all respect.

[Cinebient]

Dune 3 is also a wonderful and „weird“ FX machine. Even nice for foley.

[Caine123]

I wait for if something happens

A. Sale price for upgrade
B. V3 is patched with more features
C. Wait for v4

Until then you lost a customer. But i guess you got enough to justify this bad v3 version and dont care.

[v1o]

IMHO, only Spire and Sylenth1 are in a class of their own in terms of sound quality (and even they could be improved).

I would like to see DUNE get there.

IMHO opinion DUNE has always been in a class of its own going all the way back to version 1 which is why I bought it in the first place.

Dune has always had a high quality, high definition sound in my opinion so it's always "been there".

I love Sylenth1 as well. I've tried the Spire demo three times and just don't get the love but to each his own. But to put Spire and Sylenth in a higher class of sound quality than Dune is just wrong.

About this one, we can only respectfully disagree.

In my humble opinion, nothing holds a candle to the "snap" of Spire's envelopes. In this regard, the latest two DUNEs are better than most synths, but compared to Spire - not even close. The MSEG can't help it either.

The way the envelopes work is only one aspect of a particular syth, but it's a very important one. It influences ALl types of sounds the synth produces, not just the snappy plucks and such.

I've spent many months convincing myself they're close. Not even remotely!

Serum can't nail that "snap" either.

If you could connect Spire's envelopes with DUNE, it (DUNE) would really come to life.

The EGs in Dune are definitely not the same as the one's in Spire. But that is not a bad thing at all. Each synth has different characteristics. It's just absolutely insane to think that all synths should emulate Spire's envelope behaviour in order to obtain a certain status. Different synths should not sound the same and part of the character of a synthesiser comes from the design of the envelopes.

Equally you could criticize the Spire for having a "hard" sound and for having digital sounding filters compared to the more analogue Dune filters. Also with some clever programming tricks and post processing effects you can actually achieve a snap like the one you get with many Spire patches.

[AnX]

I wait for if something happens

A. Sale price for upgrade
B. V3 is patched with more features
C. Wait for v4

Until then you lost a customer. But i guess you got enough to justify this bad v3 version and dont care.

we get it, you're not happy with the update. dont buy it, move on.

[Cinebient]

MMhh...now i get some crashes too when editing wavetables with Logic. Seems the editor is a bit unstable.

[AnX]

MMhh...now i get some crashes too when editing wavetables with Logic. Seems the editor is a bit unstable.

can you reproduce it?
can you post details?

[fluffy_little_something]

MMhh...now i get some crashes too when editing wavetables with Logic. Seems the editor is a bit unstable.

Which operating system?

[wagtunes]

I wait for if something happens

A. Sale price for upgrade
B. V3 is patched with more features
C. Wait for v4

Until then you lost a customer. But i guess you got enough to justify this bad v3 version and dont care.

we get it, you're not happy with the update. dont buy it, move on.

Somebody who complains more than FLS.

Just kidding Fluffy. Nobody complains more than you.

[RobertH2]

Im trying to install the demo, but its not showing up in Bitwig 2.3.4

mac, pc? details are crucial if you need help...

PC, Windows 10. Installed the demo with no problems, but not showing up in my DAW. I can see the files installed in the destinated folders.

restart/rescan?

I had the same problem on Windows 10. Never happened with any other VSTs and I have a lot. Tried reinstalling, re-scanning, re-indexing, restarting, rebooting... nothing worked.

I had Dune 2 installed too. Renamed that DLL from DUNE2.dll to DUNE42.dll and then DUNE3.dll to DUNE2.dll. That worked and both showed up. Renamed both to their original names and its worked fine since then.

This was in Bitwig 2.4.3. The DLLs are located in the vst plugin location for x64. This is:
C:\Program Files\VSTPlugins\
on my system.

HTH

you def shouldnt need to do that, i'll pass on the info, see if there is a problem

are your other vsts in \Program Files?

All my 64 bit VST2 (42 currently)
I have 11 VST3 in \Program Files\Common Files\VST3
and 3 32 bit ones in \Program Files (x86)\VST 32

And like I said Dune 3 has been the only plugin that has not been recognized by Bitwig 2.4.3 right away. Bitwig even sees plugins that are installed when it is opened and updates the list (of plugins) dynamically. Although I don't think it was open when I installed Dune 3.

[AnX]

And like I said Dune 3 has been the only plugin that has not been recognized by Bitwig 2.4.3 right away. Bitwig even sees plugins that are installed when it is opened and updates the list (of plugins) dynamically. Although I don't think it was open when I installed Dune 3.

ok thanks for the info, its being looked at.

[INIT_KS]

Shall the workflow in dune 3 really be complicated? How did I manage to program 500 factory sounds for Dune2/Dune 3? In addition the soundsets EDM 1, EDM 2, Trance 1, World Of Cinematic. The modmatrix is 100% built up logically for me. My advice: don't own 1 million synthesizer, concentrate on 2-3 good instruments. Dune 3 makes a jump forward what the sound concerns. New filters, dual filters, new EQs, new effects (Phaser/ Chorus/ Delay/ Reverbs/ Drive).

Take more time for the details

Cheers,
KS

[Richard_Synapse]

You’re completely missing the point. It’s about being self sufficient and not having to worry about how you’re going to use the product you paid for if anything happens to the dev one day. Something tells me you’ve never experienced that.

So based on some possible future where the plugin stops working and the dev goes out of business and they didn't leave any method to keep the plugin working you'll pass on that plugin altogether ?

Seems a shame to pass on such a great synth just because of unjustified paranoia. If Synapse were a new company run by unknown developers I could see the fear being justified but with a company that's been around for going on two decades now and that is run by really nice people who don't strike me as the type who would just screw over their users in case things go bad I think it's unjustified paranoia.

For the record I'm as anti-copy protection as anyone but the Synapse method is totally painless. I think you're over reacting. But I won't buy a dongle so to each his own....

Wait a minute... can someone explain me how the copy protection of dune 3 works?

Sure, after installation DUNE 3 asks for the serial number. Then it connects to the internet once (if offline activation is used, then never) and activates the license, that's it. It is a very simple system we started with The Legend, it has worked very well for us so far. In terms of problems that our users have, activation-related problems rank the lowest - much more frequent issues are lost passwords, OS or host specific issues for instance. I'm sure if we used a dongle we would have a lot more work to do, so we are really happy with this system.

Richard

[seismicfm]

MMhh...now i get some crashes too when editing wavetables with Logic. Seems the editor is a bit unstable.

can you reproduce it?
can you post details?

I had a few crashes during Wavetable editing as well.
Using Ableton 10.0.5, MacOs Mojave, running Dune 3 as VST. It was the only plugin running.
It happened once when drawing a wavetable, and happened again when clicking the +.