Hive 1.2 overnite sanity check

[tony10000]

hmm. when I turn the VST off and on again in my host, note-offs start to make a loud spikey click in the left channel, until I change to another preset or init. that wasn't there before.
seems not every sound does that, but az amorphous does it reliably.
I think turning something off does something to the blocksize, somehow, I wonder if that could be related.

Check the latency settings on your sound card.

[acYm]

oh, it's all fine and dandy with my old saffire pro24... my finicky host is likely the issue
always had weird issues with little pops in hive, but none of the other U-He's, which is what is weird to me.
I do make sure the 16smp latency is always on.

[tony10000]

oh, it's all fine and dandy with my old saffire pro24... my finicky host is likely the issue
always had weird issues with little pops in hive, but none of the other U-He's, which is what is weird to me.
I do make sure the 16smp latency is always on.

What host are you using?

[acYm]

see the really pretty image on the previous page (if my poor instrument were less dusty anyway), with the shiny new wavetable control page for Hive... that's the legendary NI Kore 2.

it can shut down any vst, a hard bypass... but in a way that Hive doesn't seem to care for.

[tony10000]

see the really pretty image on the previous page (if my poor instrument were less dusty anyway), with the shiny new wavetable control page for Hive... that's the legendary NI Kore 2.

it can shut down any vst, a hard bypass... but in a way that Hive doesn't seem to care for.

OK...haven't seen one of those in a while...

[Urs]

How does one automate the pitch/mod wheel on Hive in Logic Pro?
Do I need engage some special mapping?
Please advise.

This works just like in 1983 (?) when the first predecessor of Logic came out: Instead of an automation lane, you edit these MIDI events directly with the notes in the matrix editor or something which used to be called "Hyperedit". I do not remember how the terminology has evolved over time, but it has always been there, pre-dates VST and parameter automation

I guess some would prefer them to be automatable parameters as well, but there's an all caps BUT there: Most people have ModWheels and PitchWheels on their master keyboards. It's therefore paramount to support these wheels per MIDI (as they always were). If we start allowing both parameter automation *and* MIDI, there'll be many, many people end up doing both: By accident, by oversight, by whatever. And those people will have great grievances trying to figure out why their tracks suddenly glitch. Thus we can not do that.

[Urs]

Yes you missed something, you missed our simple request for automation control of the on/off buttons for the FX and the mods, as well as the global FX on/off switch, much to my dismay.

On/off for Mods: They're meant to be convenience functions for sound designers, to quickly check what's going on in a patch. Please automate modulation depths to achive the same, with much better control.

On/off buttons for FX: These aren't strictly parameters, they're embedded in the complex data structure controlled by the Grid control. It's a flaw in our framework, we have it on our list to route module on/off states out of this data structure. Just hasn't been the highest priority yet.

Global FX on/off: Surely is automatable...?

The parameter for wavetable select is also notably absent.

That's no-go territory. The number of wavetables changes dynamically at any time the user updates the software, installs new soundsets or adds wavetables himself. Making this automatable would thus immediately break backwards compatibility with existing projects. Unless of course someone one day comes up with a plug-in standard where a parameter can be something more elaborate than a number between 0 and 1 (may that day never come, it'd inflict turmoil in the developer world)

[tony10000]

How does one automate the pitch/mod wheel on Hive in Logic Pro?
Do I need engage some special mapping?
Please advise.

This works just like in 1983 (?) when the first predecessor of Logic came out: Instead of an automation lane, you edit these MIDI events directly with the notes in the matrix editor or something which used to be called "Hyperedit". I do not remember how the terminology has evolved over time, but it has always been there, pre-dates VST and parameter automation

I think that was circa 84-85. The program was called C-Lab Creator and I ran it on my Atari ST. It later became Notator, and then Logic. I remember those days well.

[a.cla.dio]

great stuff urs! thanks for the update!

[Urs]

How does one automate the pitch/mod wheel on Hive in Logic Pro?
Do I need engage some special mapping?
Please advise.

This works just like in 1983 (?) when the first predecessor of Logic came out: Instead of an automation lane, you edit these MIDI events directly with the notes in the matrix editor or something which used to be called "Hyperedit". I do not remember how the terminology has evolved over time, but it has always been there, pre-dates VST and parameter automation

I think that was circa 84-85. The program was called C-Lab Creator and I ran it on my Atari ST. It later became Notator, and then Logic. I remember those days well.

Actually, I think it was first called Softtrack, then Supertrack on C-64 before it became Creator/Notator throughout the Atari years... checking this out now...

[Captain]

Woohoo, thanks for the update! Can't wait to try it!

How does one automate the pitch/mod wheel on Hive in Logic Pro?
Do I need engage some special mapping?
Please advise.

This works just like in 1983 (?) when the first predecessor of Logic came out: Instead of an automation lane, you edit these MIDI events directly with the notes in the matrix editor or something which used to be called "Hyperedit". I do not remember how the terminology has evolved over time, but it has always been there, pre-dates VST and parameter automation

Nowadays Logic doesn't even make much difference between host automation & MIDI CC data. You just enable region automation for a track, and you can then draw & edit any host automation or MIDI data parameter (like mod wheel), and they all look and act pretty much the same.

[tony10000]

How does one automate the pitch/mod wheel on Hive in Logic Pro?
Do I need engage some special mapping?
Please advise.

This works just like in 1983 (?) when the first predecessor of Logic came out: Instead of an automation lane, you edit these MIDI events directly with the notes in the matrix editor or something which used to be called "Hyperedit". I do not remember how the terminology has evolved over time, but it has always been there, pre-dates VST and parameter automation

I think that was circa 84-85. The program was called C-Lab Creator and I ran it on my Atari ST. It later became Notator, and then Logic. I remember those days well.

Actually, I think it was first called Softtrack, then Supertrack on C-64 before it became Creator/Notator throughout the Atari years... checking this out now...

Oh, wow...that pre-dates me then. I had a Yamaha CX-5 MSX computer and moved up to the Atari after that. I ran Creator and Hybrid Arts software.

[Elektronisch]

I have a simple request, is it possible to have all the new patches in a separate folder, like 1.2? its really hard to know what patch is new

[tony10000]

I have a simple request, is it possible to have all the new patches in a separate folder, like 1.2? its really hard to know what patch is new

I agree...it would be great to have a wavetable patches folder, even if they duplicate the patches in the total set.

[zvenx]

I have a simple request, is it possible to have all the new patches in a separate folder, like 1.2? its really hard to know what patch is new

I agree...it would be great to have a wavetable patches folder, even if they duplicate the patches in the total set.

Agreed too....

Thats how I have new stuff in Diva and Zebra2.
rsp