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Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:08 pm

DenisArturia wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:30 pm Hello guys,

I'm Denis, one of the Pigments Sound Designers. I'm surprised cause no one so far has mentioned one of my very favorite features in Pigments. How to use it:
- Click the "Q" next to the coarse
- Click the pen next to the coarse
- A pop up open, select a few notes in the octave (I love to use 2 or 3 notes with large intervals)
- Modulate the Coarse: it's now only playing the notes you have selected

I asked the product manager. He told me he got that feature idea from a Eurorack module, but that he never saw it on a soft synth.

Cheers,

D

Here it is getting interesting. You should list unique features to advertise the synth...
And as you are connected to the product manager, could you ask him when an MPE update is to be expected? That would make a decision for a lot of people much easier...

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:28 pm

egbert101 wrote: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:22 pm
Touch The Universe wrote: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:23 am no init? wtf? might be the first synth i uninstall and not try because it doesn't have an init
What synth are you talking about? If you mean Pigments, it has a default preset in the template section.

Criticism is fine, spreading false information isn't.

That's fine and even better, reminds me of the templates for tone 2. It was easy for me to overlook. If I'm not interested in the presets, why would I read which categories there are? I'd be quicker to uninstall the thing then manually initialize all the parameters of some random patch on a synth I know absolutely nothing about just to see if I will like it.

I was able to spend a few minutes with it and remember being impressed, deserves a closer look. I like the how they have wave folding and other parameters near the oscillator section, I think that's a step forward that I wouldn't mind seeing on more synths.

ew · Post by ew » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:53 pm

Another thing that would be nice to have - being able to switch the volume controls of the engines from exponential scaling to linear. As it sits, if you're doing crossfades between the engines using the mod wheel, you have a big dead spot in the middle where the volume drops to near zero.

Or, failing that, the option of crossfading between the filters when they're in parallel.

EDIT: With some playing around, it's workable. Still be nice to have the option, though.

ew

realtrance · Post by **realtrance** » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:43 pm

Couldn't you simply use an envelope, or one of the function generators, or even the glide/lag function, to edit the modwheel curve? Basically, you're just looking to put a log or linear or exp curve on the modwheel, and seems to me that that's one of the many things that Pigments' mod assignment flexibility allows.

Astonishing synth, again. Do not underestimate the possibilities here! I would also imagine you could crossfade the filters via a modulation, as well, yes? Not just an LFO, but one of the self-drawn function generators, maybe itself controlled by the Turing randomizer?

Just some thoughts.I'm not directly in the synth as I type this myself so I haven't tried these out yet, but I've been a [dynamic] wavetable user since getting the MWXT back in the '90's, and have always felt the functionality of this kind of synthesis to far exceed traditional {V}A subtractive in the possibilities. It's a kind of synthesis that, these days, lends itself far more to software than hardware implementation. And what it needs most, Arturia supplies, with their brilliant modulator animations slots.

There's also plenty of penchant for FM and cross-mod and distortion synthesis here, too, and the facilities for all that are there!

Just my thoughts, carry on!

ew · Post by ew » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:10 pm

realtrance wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:43 pm Couldn't you simply use an envelope, or one of the function generators, or even the glide/lag function, to edit the modwheel curve? Basically, you're just looking to put a log or linear or exp curve on the modwheel, and seems to me that that's one of the many things that Pigments' mod assignment flexibility allows.

The function generators use a gate source. I need it to be independent of gates. However, I didn't notice you can set thresholds with the combinators- that could work in the patch that started me thinking about this.

Just my thoughts, carry on!

*salutes*

ew

realtrance · Post by **realtrance** » Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:52 am

Aha. So the "trigger" that initiates a modwheel modulation is one's hand, moving the modwheel. Can the modwheel itself be set as the gate source, then? Don't know, just speculatin'.

But I see your point about not wanting another trigger/gate in the way of the modwheel modulation.

ew · Post by ew » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:56 am

OOPS. Ignore...

ew · Post by ew » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:56 am

realtrance wrote: Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:52 am Aha. So the "trigger" that initiates a modwheel modulation is one's hand, moving the modwheel. Can the modwheel itself be set as the gate source, then? Don't know, just speculatin'.

But I see your point about not wanting another trigger/gate in the way of the modwheel modulation.

Unfortunately, that's not one of the allowed sources . If it were, I wouldn't have the problem.

ew

realtrance · Post by **realtrance** » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:00 pm

Was trying a few things this morning and yes, you're right; wonder whether Arturia can change that? There's plenty else to do in the meantime, though!

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:27 pm

I looked at Pigments and I'm thoroughly impressed.

It's a new Serum, but instead of digital powerhouse if comes with classic and rare features - phase distortion and wavefolding. Interface couldn't be any better.

Official sound demos were nothing special, though.

SirKen · Post by **SirKen** » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:46 am

Is January 10th the last day to purchase it with the intro price? I hate it when companies use "until" in their announcements.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:49 am

SirKen wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:46 am Is January 10th the last day to purchase it with the intro price? I hate it when companies use "until" in their announcements.

The way I read it, "until" includes the last (mentioned) day.

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:00 pm

Anyone here who has compared (maybe owns both?) Pigments with Propellerhead's Europa VST/AU version?

While staring to demo both, I've got the impression that Europa is much less demanding of the CPU than Pigments.

Any thoughts about pros and cons?

/Joachim

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:34 pm

I haven't got Europa, but for what it is worth Pigments uses a lot less CPU than Serum ( I actually find Pigments to be quite CPU friendly for a wavetable and VA modeled synth). If you find one more CPU taxing than the other you just need to decide if the additional CPU grunt is worth it for the sound!

telecode · Post by **telecode** » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:56 pm

SLiC wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:00 am What I love the most about Pigments is that it seems to only use about half the CPU of Serum so I can play 6-7 note chords without having to worry! I still really like Serum but doing some A/B sound comparisons reminded me how CPU heavy it can be!

can you post rough CPU resourse specs of using Serum vs Pig? Just curious?

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