SampleTank 4 on the way

[benjamind]

It's a sample library and like every other sample library, you will never quite reach realism.

All sample libraries kick ass on one-hit sounds like vibraphones, drums, and other percussive sounds.

Nothing new here. It was true 20 years ago and lo and behold it's still true today.

[Burillo]

It's a sample library and like every other sample library, you will never quite reach realism.

All sample libraries kick ass on one-hit sounds like vibraphones, drums, and other percussive sounds.

Nothing new here. It was true 20 years ago and lo and behold it's still true today.

i disagree. there are sample libraries which achieve realism for other sounds as far as i am concerned. for example, for acoustic guitar my gold standard is the UVI Sunbird, as well as newer Orange Tree guitars (e.g. Songwriter). i'm not exactly big on orchestral stuff, but for me Kirk Hunter's string libraries sound convincing enough to not care they are actually samples (i don't always like the timbre, but as far as realism goes, it's there) - much better than demo 7 in ST4.

so it's achievable - it's just hard, and requires loads of scripting, legato samples etc.

[Dmitry Petrenko]

It seems that there is nothing to be proud of in the new content. In particular, guitars are not represented in the demo, with the exception of Nylon Gtr. The sound of which is very similar to the sound in ST3. That is, no. Dead, similar to the piano in a guitar timbre. Even such a virtuoso as Jordan Rudess could not revive him with all the delicate possession of the technique of performance, which, as always, is on top. Unlike the tool. Indeed, there is a lack of a library with special articulations and Round Robin, which, if there is, does not work properly. Unfortunately. I could be wrong, but the demo gives exactly such an idea about the product.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

There are more demos coming. You'll hear representation of more and this is something we're VERY proud of as the quality is definitely there and as I said we'll have more demos to show this so you can make a decision.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

I´ve read through this thread but a couple of thins are still not clear to me:

1. Will I be able to load all my existing ST3MAX expansions? Do these require any conversion?
2. Do I have to download all the content again, or can I simply just update the existing content?
4. Is the USB-version really the same cost? Can I choose to download the product later if the drive breaks? When will these ship?

I bought ST3 a couple of years ago but havn't actually used it much due to the clunky preset browsing, and I found myself going to HalionSonic every time. The new ST4 interface is a game changer for me and I´m looking forward to start using it.

Now, if we could only have NKS support...

Thanks

1. You can use your existing content.
2. No conversion necessary but you do need to have it installed in SampleTank 3 already (you'll point SampleTank 4 to your SampleTank 3 library location - you will have the ability to use multiple locations in SampleTank 4).
3. Yes, they are the same price (except shipping applies to the USB version if purchased online). They will ship in early 2019.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

It seems that there is nothing to be proud of in the new content. In particular, guitars are not represented in the demo, with the exception of Nylon Gtr. The sound of which is very similar to the sound in ST3. That is, no. Dead, similar to the piano in a guitar timbre. Even such a virtuoso as Jordan Rudess could not revive him with all the delicate possession of the technique of performance, which, as always, is on top. Unlike the tool. Indeed, there is a lack of a library with special articulations and Round Robin, which, if there is, does not work properly. Unfortunately. I could be wrong, but the demo gives exactly such an idea about the product.

This is a great leap from SampleTank 3 and not similar - no shortcuts or robotic "do it the same way" took place, it was a great effort with some amazing sounds that are sure to be heard on many projects. The new engine and the extreme care and dedication in recording these samples in some great studios in Italy and other parts of the world will surely show. Jordan was very happy with what he was able to do with these sounds as will many who do decide to get SampleTank 4 (the pre-order pricing ends soon, by the way).

Also, the round robins and other articulations are also done very well and they do work properly, with extreme care and dedication to the quality of SampleTank 4.

[Dmitry Petrenko]

Thanks for the information! I am very pleased that it is present in ST4. My fears are associated with a similar ad ST3 at one time, when the reality was not so rosy. The quality of the guitars in the ST3 was unsuitable, much worse than the sound of the ST2. In the preorder period, I would like to see more demos, so the bias towards Piano and synthetics raises similar questions. As I understand it, not only me. From ST4, I expect the capabilities of the main all-in-one tool, and ask about the part that does not suit me in the current version. I wish Good for developers, do not consider my questions as an attempt to discredit a good tool. On the contrary, it is the desire to see it truly refined.

[Burillo]

Peter, round robins isn't the only thing that matters in guitar sounds. legato samples etc. also matter - that is, scripting. you can have the best recording in the world (i really don't doubt your expertise here), but if the engine doesn't trigger appropriate samples at appropriate times automatically, it won't sound realistic during performance. given a lot of recorded articulations, all of that can be done in MIDI (like everyone used to do back in the days of less detailed Kontakt guitar libraries), of course, but we've been spoilt by very detailed Kontakt instruments, and "simply" providing these articulations while leaving it up to the user to use them doesn't cut it any more. not today.

[latorrejc3]

I have a couple questions:

I had a MacBook Pro mid 2014 i5 8 gb ram. In Studio One 3 Sampletank 3 CS took easily 3/4 of my CPU, i made a ticket and the answer was “the effects use a lot of cpu”

My question its if ST4 uses conparatively less cpu than ST3?

One thing that could be good its comparison if a midi file through ST3 patches vs ST4 similar ones to hear the quality and color of these

Im really thinking buying

[mixtur.se]

I´ve read through this thread but a couple of thins are still not clear to me:

1. Will I be able to load all my existing ST3MAX expansions? Do these require any conversion?
2. Do I have to download all the content again, or can I simply just update the existing content?
4. Is the USB-version really the same cost? Can I choose to download the product later if the drive breaks? When will these ship?

I bought ST3 a couple of years ago but havn't actually used it much due to the clunky preset browsing, and I found myself going to HalionSonic every time. The new ST4 interface is a game changer for me and I´m looking forward to start using it.

Now, if we could only have NKS support...

Thanks

1. You can use your existing content.
2. No conversion necessary but you do need to have it installed in SampleTank 3 already (you'll point SampleTank 4 to your SampleTank 3 library location - you will have the ability to use multiple locations in SampleTank 4).
3. Yes, they are the same price (except shipping applies to the USB version if purchased online). They will ship in early 2019.

Thanks, just pre-ordered the USB-version as I had some Jam-points that was about to expire.

I noticed you can actually buy the upgrade for less at sweatwater: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... 3-download

[lazyeye]

I noticed that the tech specs include "OpenGL 2 compatible graphics adapter" as a requirement. Do the late 2012 Mac Mini servers meet this requirement (I can't tell by using the "About this Mac" function)/

Thanks.

Looks like it could be a no for me: https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT202823


BUT this link (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202823) suggests that Intel 4000 GPUs support Open GL, and the late 2012 Mac Mini uses this GPU.

I'm confused.

[Burillo]

OpenGL 2 is a very old standard. pretty much everything out there going back more than a decade will support OpenGL 2.

[Saukar30]

No instrument list available yet.

[javiere]

Before I take the plunge and upgrade to Sampletank 4 Max for the 200 GB of new sounds, I would like to see a list of sounds or IK instruments included with the package. Additionally, a deal breaker would be if ST4 does not support VST 2 since I am an Ableton user (blows my mind why Ableton hasn't supported VST 3 yet). I would think that just as ST 3 supports both VST formats, ST4 would also. Can someone confirm this?

[Teksonik]

Am I the only one who doesn't want any more samples of "real" instruments like Guitars, Brass etc ? I'd love to see more content of the type of sounds found in late 80-90's Romplers. Shaku, Bottle Blow, Choirs, Bells, that type of stuff.

Anyway as you are creating the sample content you are obviously also creating a list of that content. The list should have been some of the first promotional material released when ST4 was announced.

Much easier to convince people to pre-order when they know what they are getting. I'm still not finding such a list at the IK site........