SampleTank 4 on the way

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Note that any content showing in videos would be using early versions of SampleTank 4 and in no way indicate nearly the mass amount of content that will be available upon release.

[pc999]

Does this support Linux?

[musicalwarmth812]

You will be able to create extremely realistic performances with the tools that SampleTank provides, regardless of whether you feel scripting would be required to do so. SampleTank 4 is its own product, not emulating another company's product and achieves what it sets out to achieve - extremely satisfying and realistic performances from a workstation full of a huge library of incredibly well-crafted sounds and doesn't require an over-complicated workflow in order to do so.

Basically, with SampleTank 4 you'll be able to realize your creative vision unobstructed by complexity yet without lacking powerful toosl (and without having to perform tasks akin to pulling off a space shuttle launch in order to do so).

Peter, I have no doubt that the first part of your post is true. While I personally have no interest in the sampled guitars, I can objectively say that the guitar examples provided do not sound like a real guitar performance (the nylon was the only one with any degree of realism) - I don't know whether or not that was the intention of the musician. However if those holds true for other instruments, that is a concern if playability, articulations and realism aren't on par with a multitude of Kontakt libraries. This doesn't mean ST4 won't be a great sounding all-in-one solution for many.

[musicalwarmth812]

Though you are going to be guaranteed a huge library of quality sounds here, by buying blind, plus the new interface, the lack of specifics and rush to purchase without these specifics is concerning.

Regarding the three different tiers, one has no information telling them:

1. What is content size per instrument category for each tier? Let's say Strings is 1 GB in SE, 5 GB standard tank, 25 GB Max?

2. When going from SE to MAX, using Strings again, are we talking crippled to full, i.e. SE much fewer articulations than MAX.

3. Strings again, were these recorded differently than MP2, i.e. Location, mix selection, room sound. Do these strings have the full complement of articulations including legato? Any idea of new cinematic percussion, brass (or is this brass more of a pop vein).

Additionally, no info on drum kits and/or included grooves. Regarding Syntronik, is there another massive sampling of synths and if so, do they complement, add to, or surpass Syntronik?

Has IK fixed their ticket system yet - still not able to read tickets that have been submitted replied to (mentioned it to support twice and no reply).

This isn't uncommon with pre-ordering products but again - the request for a full list has been made as I've said.

1. See above.

2. I've stated that SE isn't limited feature-wise, but yes there may be fewer sounds in categories so you may miss some sampled articulations or similar.

3. Yes, these are new recordings. You can find the general sounds information at https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/st4/#sounds and the list has been requested as we get closer to release.

About drums, synths, etc, if you are not satisfied with the Sounds page linked above, you will have to make a decision based on that or wait for a list if it a dealbreaker.

Our support ticket system works and has been working regularly. We handle tickets every day without issue. Please relay any ticket numbers where you're experiencing problems and I'm sure someone can get to the bottom of whatever issue you're experiencing there.

Vague, but understandable given you don't have anymore specifics, so fair enough. I understand that SE isn't crippled feature-wise, so yes, just trying to get an idea of MAX down to SE means less articulations, round robins, and perhaps instruments, and vice-versa in the other direction.

Particularly, as you can see, I am interested in the amount, types of instruments, playability including legato, of the orchestral instruments - the marketing for ST4 would lead you to believe this contains some of the best orchestral samples on the planet (I know this is not specifically an orchestral instrument, I am just paraphrasing here and obviously exaggerated the marketing speak intentionally if that makes sense).

Per the ticketing, I would enter the ticket no and it would say something to the effect that it doesn't exist.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Does this support Linux?

No, SampleTank 4 is not compatible with Linux. You can find full information on the Specs sub-page on our site.

[etotman]

You will be able to create extremely realistic performances with the tools that SampleTank provides, regardless of whether you feel scripting would be required to do so. SampleTank 4 is its own product, not emulating another company's product and achieves what it sets out to achieve - extremely satisfying and realistic performances from a workstation full of a huge library of incredibly well-crafted sounds and doesn't require an over-complicated workflow in order to do so.

Basically, with SampleTank 4 you'll be able to realize your creative vision unobstructed by complexity yet without lacking powerful toosl (and without having to perform tasks akin to pulling off a space shuttle launch in order to do so).

Peter, I have no doubt that the first part of your post is true. While I personally have no interest in the sampled guitars, I can objectively say that the guitar examples provided do not sound like a real guitar performance (the nylon was the only one with any degree of realism) - I don't know whether or not that was the intention of the musician. However if those holds true for other instruments, that is a concern if playability, articulations and realism aren't on par with a multitude of Kontakt libraries. This doesn't mean ST4 won't be a great sounding all-in-one solution for many.

Even the old ST3 interface is better than Kontakt, which is a mess of UI changes cobbled together over many years. Still, this isn't a fair comparison because the retail price for Kontakt alone is $399, and the best guitar libraries are several hundred dollars more.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Per the ticketing, I would enter the ticket no and it would say something to the effect that it doesn't exist.

Interesting, I'll have them take a look. But in the mean time you can also reply to the confirmation email and it will add a comment to the ticket.

[songshark]

and the list has been requested as we get closer to release.

Peter, do you know if this content info will be made available prior to the end of the pre-order offer?

I'm interested in taking advantage of the offer -- but it's impossible to know which version to order without this info. May I request that IK keep the pre-order prices available at least until the information about what we're buying is available?

Thanks.

[musicalwarmth812]

You will be able to create extremely realistic performances with the tools that SampleTank provides, regardless of whether you feel scripting would be required to do so. SampleTank 4 is its own product, not emulating another company's product and achieves what it sets out to achieve - extremely satisfying and realistic performances from a workstation full of a huge library of incredibly well-crafted sounds and doesn't require an over-complicated workflow in order to do so.

Basically, with SampleTank 4 you'll be able to realize your creative vision unobstructed by complexity yet without lacking powerful toosl (and without having to perform tasks akin to pulling off a space shuttle launch in order to do so).

Peter, I have no doubt that the first part of your post is true. While I personally have no interest in the sampled guitars, I can objectively say that the guitar examples provided do not sound like a real guitar performance (the nylon was the only one with any degree of realism) - I don't know whether or not that was the intention of the musician. However if those holds true for other instruments, that is a concern if playability, articulations and realism aren't on par with a multitude of Kontakt libraries. This doesn't mean ST4 won't be a great sounding all-in-one solution for many.

Even the old ST3 interface is better than Kontakt, which is a mess of UI changes cobbled together over many years. Still, this isn't a fair comparison because the retail price for Kontakt alone is $399, and the best guitar libraries are several hundred dollars more.

All good points and I wasn't trying to argue against them. However, IK is claiming a high degree of sampling quality and realism here, so the comparison is valid. I think we are all trying to assess whether or not it's worth it to take the leap, and/or whether or not ST4 is going to live up to expectations (new interface aside) - one would think these new libraries are going to either rival or blow out of the water some of the best kontakt libraries out there (per the marketing).

[etotman]

You will be able to create extremely realistic performances with the tools that SampleTank provides, regardless of whether you feel scripting would be required to do so. SampleTank 4 is its own product, not emulating another company's product and achieves what it sets out to achieve - extremely satisfying and realistic performances from a workstation full of a huge library of incredibly well-crafted sounds and doesn't require an over-complicated workflow in order to do so.

Basically, with SampleTank 4 you'll be able to realize your creative vision unobstructed by complexity yet without lacking powerful toosl (and without having to perform tasks akin to pulling off a space shuttle launch in order to do so).

Peter, I have no doubt that the first part of your post is true. While I personally have no interest in the sampled guitars, I can objectively say that the guitar examples provided do not sound like a real guitar performance (the nylon was the only one with any degree of realism) - I don't know whether or not that was the intention of the musician. However if those holds true for other instruments, that is a concern if playability, articulations and realism aren't on par with a multitude of Kontakt libraries. This doesn't mean ST4 won't be a great sounding all-in-one solution for many.

Even the old ST3 interface is better than Kontakt, which is a mess of UI changes cobbled together over many years. Still, this isn't a fair comparison because the retail price for Kontakt alone is $399, and the best guitar libraries are several hundred dollars more.

All good points and I wasn't trying to argue against them. However, IK is claiming a high degree of sampling quality and realism here, so the comparison is valid. I think we are all trying to assess whether or not it's worth it to take the leap, and/or whether or not ST4 is going to live up to expectations (new interface aside) - one would think these new libraries are going to either rival or blow out of the water some of the best kontakt libraries out there.

I understand your point. ST4 is a general purpose sample library containing a wide variety of samples. I don't see how it could reasonably compete with a purpose-built library dedicated to one instrument, regardless of the claims.

[Silaris]

and the list has been requested as we get closer to release.

Peter, do you know if this content info will be made available prior to the end of the pre-order offer?

I'm interested in taking advantage of the offer -- but it's impossible to know which version to order without this info. May I request that IK keep the pre-order prices available at least until the information about what we're buying is available?

Thanks.

+1.

I am in the same situation, as it would be a waste of funds to upgrade from standard to MAX version at a later date, as there are not specific upgrade paths from one SampleTank version to another only the crossgrade discount.

[glokraw]

Does this support Linux?

No, SampleTank 4 is not compatible with Linux. You can find full information on the Specs sub-page on our site.,

The way that IK pseudo-supports linux, is by solid coding
that enables their apps to work in linux-wine with Reaper,
and hosted in linux daws when wrapped by the LinVst plugin wrapper.
I have Amplitube 4, Sampletank 2.5 and 3,
and T-racks Custom shop, which install and play
without issues, and the IK registration works,
buying alacart at the shops works, and I have to get to work,
if I want to buy Sampletank 4

[simon.a.billington]

sudden windfall has reversed my decision to not preorder

Peter, is there any ballpark value of when release will happen? i understand the early 2019 part, but how early - January? Q1?

Well I'd say Q1 is very realistic, but we'll do our best to get it out as soon as we can (and as soon as we feel it is solid and ready to go). We do have more demos just posted, so that's a good sign since they were done by an artist. I'll post those soon, too.

Actually, take your bloody time... I still need a chance to save up for it after all this Christmas spending!! Haha!!

[emasters]

Well -- took the plunge and purchased the upgrade. My sincere hope is that the installation of 250 GB of content, is intelligent (recognizes what is already installed from prior versions), can download the whole thing as one large content archive (versus multiple smaller pieces that must each be downloaded manually and independently), and that there's a single content installer (again, avoiding having to install multiple smaller content packages manually). Assuming the content install of 250 GB is intelligent and goes smoothly, very interested to see this new beast in action.

[FrankT]

Even the old ST3 interface is better than Kontakt, which is a mess of UI changes cobbled together over many years. Still, this isn't a fair comparison because the retail price for Kontakt alone is $399, and the best guitar libraries are several hundred dollars more.

What a bizarre statement. GUI: There is a reason why companies specialising in Pro-libraries do release these for Kontakt. Pricing: Ever heard of Komplete? Also, there are many excellent Guitar libraries for Kontakt at lower price points. You will not find a lot of Rompler-stuff though.