I enjoy satin a lot and think it's great. One thing I noticed compared to other tape emulations and also to some real tape recordings is the non degrading low IPS behavior (below 7.5ips) in satin. Is this depended on the tape machine model? i.e. that some stay clean an others are degrating the sound (in a good lofi way)?
Others emulation get a very good mid/high crunch on hihats with low ips settings. Take a 909 hihat loop and notice how the definition is enhanced, it sound mid focused and the harshness is removed. In satin it everything stays very clean only a very gentle change in the eq curve (as you see in the panel).
I'm asking because I struggle to get this sound with satin. I thought it must be possible because it's so tweakable.
Satin sound with low IPS
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midi_transmission midi_transmission https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=298730
- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 13 Feb, 2013
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- KVRian
- 1141 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from Berlin, Germany
If you go lower than 7.5ips you should definitely switch the rec & repro eq to 'flat', so neither IEC nor NAB. That ensures maximum HF smear, since then the treble depends on the applied pre-emphasis, and that must be a lot because the gap loss at lower speed is immense.
If the smearing is still not enough, choose 'vintage' as the tape model.
If the smearing is still not enough, choose 'vintage' as the tape model.
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
Would really like to see a 'detailed' tutorial on Satin and tape saturation.. How to tweak it for a certain tape behavior/character and then some more 
I always have the feeling that Satin can do many characters, I just didn't mastered it yet. It's hard when trying different combination of parameters and not really sure what to listen for when 'side-effects' are concerned..
I always have the feeling that Satin can do many characters, I just didn't mastered it yet. It's hard when trying different combination of parameters and not really sure what to listen for when 'side-effects' are concerned..-
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- KVRAF
- 12495 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Ditto. Some Satin videos covering how to get different sounds and just the most out of it would be very welcome. She's a complex beasty.
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midi_transmission midi_transmission https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=298730
- KVRian
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- 1045 posts since 13 Feb, 2013
I will try that. Thank you so much for the background information, sascha!sascha wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:04 pm If you go lower than 7.5ips you should definitely switch the rec & repro eq to 'flat', so neither IEC nor NAB. That ensures maximum HF smear, since then the treble depends on the applied pre-emphasis, and that must be a lot because the gap loss at lower speed is immense.
If the smearing is still not enough, choose 'vintage' as the tape model.