Sampler module for Zebra (HZ)

[Coorec]

I'd like to suggest a new sound generator besides Osc 1-4 and FMO 1-4.

A sampler module, preferably with additional 8 and 12 bit modes. 2 would be nice, 4 would be fantastic.

Oh, and if the Osc FX could be snuck in ..

I know granular is fashionable right now, and people gonna ask for it, but i wouldnt need that.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

My hope would be Zebra 3 includes a few specialized generator modules like: an analog osc bank (with drift and slop), wavetable, FM, maybe a sampler module, maybe a grain module (if Urs can make grain not sound crappy). Having a few options like that would make Z3 feel more like Eurorack IMO where you can mix and match different OSC types.

Wouldn't expect anything like new Oscs before Zebra 3 though.

[Coorec]

My hope would be Zebra 3 includes a few specialized generator modules like: an analog osc bank (with drift and slop), wavetable, FM, maybe a sampler module, maybe a grain module (if Urs can make grain not sound crappy). Having a few options like that would make Z3 feel more like Eurorack IMO where you can mix and match different OSC types.

Wouldn't expect anything like new Oscs before Zebra 3 though.

Thats all already in there if you know your way around. But no sampler! Hence the suggestion.

[V0RT3X]

I'd love to see a sampler module as well. Nothing too fancy, but it would be nice to layer samples in with the other synthesis functions.

[V0RT3X]

My hope would be Zebra 3 includes a few specialized generator modules like: an analog osc bank (with drift and slop), wavetable, FM, maybe a sampler module, maybe a grain module (if Urs can make grain not sound crappy). Having a few options like that would make Z3 feel more like Eurorack IMO where you can mix and match different OSC types.

Wouldn't expect anything like new Oscs before Zebra 3 though.

Thats all already in there if you know your way around. But no sampler! Hence the suggestion.

Zebra has a grain module? I don' think so..

Also doubt Urs would put an Analog OSC module in because that would prevent people from buying Diva or Repro. That said, you can still get very convincing analog style sounds out of Zebra by programming what's already there.

Even though Zebra already does it's own form of WT synthesis, Importable Wavetable banks are going to be implemented from what I've read around the forums. I think Urs is planning on putting the Hive WT module into Zebra3.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Never said Zebra has one, said I'd like to see this stuff in Zebra3. Basically have Zebra3 act as a modular synth with a few more different types of Oscs to choose from. Likely may not happen, but I can dream right?

[Coorec]

Zebra has a grain module? I don' think so..

Also doubt Urs would put an Analog OSC module in because that would prevent people from buying Diva or Repro. That said, you can still get very convincing analog style sounds out of Zebra by programming what's already there.

Even though Zebra already does it's own form of WT synthesis, Importable Wavetable banks are going to be implemented from what I've read around the forums. I think Urs is planning on putting the Hive WT module into Zebra3.

Precondition for a grain synth is what? Exactly, a sampler or at least sample player! Hence the suggestion.

Importable wavetables are already in there.. analog osc.. already in there.. Diva Oscillators ARE the Zebra Oscillators ...slop .. already in there ..

Guys, stop derailing this thread. It is about a SAMPLER MODULE and what we would want from such a module. If you guys want something else, make your own threads

[V0RT3X]

lol ok I'm out

I can see this is going to get silly soon.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

In all seriousness, there's already a Z3 wishlist thread. Would probably have made the most sense to have posted this suggestion there since the likelihood of a sampler module making into a 2.X build is very low

[justin3am]

It's been a pretty common request over the years. I'm pretty sure that Urs has said, if there were going to be a sample playback module, it wouldn't allow long samples and that it would likely be an extension of the Wavetable osc. More like D50 ROMs than arbitrary sample playback.
I may be mistaken and plans may have changed but I seem to remember a response like that recently.

[Urs]

Samples kill synths. Synths with sample playback become samplers. Everything that makes Zebra great will be gone once we add sample playback. It'll become the same old same old static kind of thing for which you only buy sample packs.

Furthermore, a synthesizer with sample playback is expected to come with an extensive library. This raises the intial cost of the software by factor 2. Zebra with sample playback will cost more than 400€.

There are already very good alternatives to that in Omnisphere, Kontakt and Nexus.

I'm a synth guy. Sample playback bores me to death, it would be my intellectual suicide.

[daily patcher]

Samples kill synths. Synths with sample playback become samplers. Everything that makes Zebra great will be gone once we add sample playback. It'll become the same old same old static kind of thing for which you only buy sample packs.

Furthermore, a synthesizer with sample playback is expected to come with an extensive library. This raises the intial cost of the software by factor 2. Zebra with sample playback will cost more than 400€.

There are already very good alternatives to that in Omnisphere, Kontakt and Nexus.

I'm a synth guy. Sample playback bores me to death, it would be my intellectual suicide.

2019 kicking off strong

[Howard]

Samples kill synths. Synths with sample playback become samplers. Everything that makes Zebra great will be gone once we add sample playback. It'll become the same old same old static kind of thing for which you only buy sample packs.

Furthermore, a synthesizer with sample playback is expected to come with an extensive library. This raises the intial cost of the software by factor 2. Zebra with sample playback will cost more than 400€.

There are already very good alternatives to that in Omnisphere, Kontakt and Nexus.

I'm a synth guy. Sample playback bores me to death, it would be my intellectual suicide.

[EvilDragon]

For best possible combination of samples and synthesis I would definitely recommend Falcon.

[wilx]

I love Alchemy - it's my go-to instrument when I need to do any mangling of a recorded source, and the granular/spectral analysis is brilliant.

But whenever I need a synth sound I go straight to Zebra (or lately Hive 1.2 with the new plugmon skin). There's a clear identity in my mind to Zebra - it's a pure synth, and it's the best one I have. Bolting on modules and abilities that make the function of zebra less focused would be a bad thing, in my view. And it would surely compromise and confuse the team making it - they would have a whole extra set of problems to solve, concepts to communicate, features to balance etc.
- Alchemy/Omnisphere for sample mangling, granular stuff etc, and u-he synths for pure unadulterated synthesis.

Agree with Urs.