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sl1914 · Post by **sl1914** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:09 pm

I hope there will be some website or something for sharing user made Grid devices - if I understand how this new Grid works.
Something similar to http://maxforlive.com/

andypryce · Post by **andypryce** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:16 pm

This is a big answer for price model complaints and Live comparisons. I mean in a year Bitwig released 2.3, 2.4, 2.5 and now shortly 3. During this time Live couldn't even reach to 10.1. One wonders what are they busy with. And I am sure Bitwig is a much more small company and they are dealing with 3 OS
I am an Ableton Live+Push2 user by the way but this update and commitment of Bitwig team is fantastic. Whatever I wish to have in Live comes with BWS. I guess the time to switch has come.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:20 pm

andypryce wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:16 pm This is a big answer for price model complaints and Live comparisons. I mean in a year Bitwig released 2.3, 2.4, 2.5 and now shortly 3. During this time Live couldn't even reach to 10.1. One wonders what are they busy with. And I am sure Bitwig is a much more small company and they are dealing with 3 OS
I am an Ableton Live+Push2 user by the way but this update and commitment of Bitwig team is fantastic. Whatever I wish to have in Live comes with BWS. I guess the time to switch has come.

Bring your PUSH, works great in Bitwig

5Lives · Post by **5Lives** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:33 pm

I hope they have some actual useful workflow improvements. They’ve gone down the rabbit hole of modulation - which is fine but after some point is just them wanking themselves off.

At least ableton 10 released some useful functionality for making music.

andypryce · Post by **andypryce** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:34 pm

SLiC wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:20 pm
andypryce wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:16 pm This is a big answer for price model complaints and Live comparisons. I mean in a year Bitwig released 2.3, 2.4, 2.5 and now shortly 3. During this time Live couldn't even reach to 10.1. One wonders what are they busy with. And I am sure Bitwig is a much more small company and they are dealing with 3 OS
I am an Ableton Live+Push2 user by the way but this update and commitment of Bitwig team is fantastic. Whatever I wish to have in Live comes with BWS. I guess the time to switch has come.
Bring your PUSH, works great in Bitwig

Will do

zklaus · Post by **zklaus** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:47 pm

Wow, this is great. Seems to be a less complex approach than M4L too, which is a good thing IMO. Looks really powerful....*and* hardware modular integration!

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:50 pm

5Lives wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:33 pm I hope they have some actual useful workflow improvements. They’ve gone down the rabbit hole of modulation - which is fine but after some point is just them wanking themselves off.

At least ableton 10 released some useful functionality for making music.

tried to use the multi-clip MIDI editor in AL ... and there is no track locking (Bitwig has), https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=229185
d'oh

and M4L devices are still crashing the whole system d'oh+1, I really wanted to like and use it but the crashing in AL brings back very bad memories ... BWS still bit like the poor man's AL (especially in MIDI editing) but at least never lost a project with it

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:53 pm

Excellent! The more I work with Bitwig the more I start to drift away from Live.

/C

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:18 pm

The Grid looks very interesting... I appreciate that all signals are interchangeable. So the output of an Osc can be used to modulate anything! Plus all signals are stereo!

It also looks very easy to auto-connect modules. And then any Grid device can be used like any other Bitwig device... nested, modulated etc etc...

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:36 pm

This is a good read on the journey and the vision of Bitwig.

https://www.bitwig.com/en/19/behind-the ... arity.html

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:53 pm

Reminds me of Mulab's Mux quite a bit. I won't be back until they restore right-click context commands so I don't have to constantly move to the top of the screen, but nice to see they're still hard at it. Still my favorite looking DAW by far.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:14 pm

jonljacobi wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:53 pmI won't be back until they restore right-click context commands so I don't have to constantly move to the top of the screen

What on Earth do you mean? 95% of contextually relevant actions are still available under right-click. And if you need that 5% you can likely map a keyboard shortcut to them.

The dynamic tiles menus have to stay for touch control.

Try to do undo/redo and many other actions in Live using just the touch screen... Or map keyboard to actions how you want it...

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:19 pm

From the announcement:

Modules like envelopes, LFOs, and sequencers all have modulator outputs as well. And just as Bitwig Studio’s modulators can control any parameter in The Grid, any grid signal can be used to modulate child devices.

This is amazing.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:55 pm

This finally would make me to decide to get Bitwig as my second DAW or even as a replacment if i would leave mac or Apple abandon mac/Logic themselves one day. Nice.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:17 pm

This looks awesome! I can’t wait to get my hands on it.

Bitwig Studio 3