Bitwig Studio 3
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- KVRian
- 650 posts since 2 Nov, 2014
This is a big answer for price model complaints and Live comparisons. I mean in a year Bitwig released 2.3, 2.4, 2.5 and now shortly 3. During this time Live couldn't even reach to 10.1. One wonders what are they busy with. And I am sure Bitwig is a much more small company and they are dealing with 3 OS
I am an Ableton Live+Push2 user by the way but this update and commitment of Bitwig team is fantastic. Whatever I wish to have in Live comes with BWS. I guess the time to switch has come.
I am an Ableton Live+Push2 user by the way but this update and commitment of Bitwig team is fantastic. Whatever I wish to have in Live comes with BWS. I guess the time to switch has come.
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- KVRAF
- 11176 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Bring your PUSH, works great in Bitwigandypryce wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:16 pm This is a big answer for price model complaints and Live comparisons. I mean in a year Bitwig released 2.3, 2.4, 2.5 and now shortly 3. During this time Live couldn't even reach to 10.1. One wonders what are they busy with. And I am sure Bitwig is a much more small company and they are dealing with 3 OS
I am an Ableton Live+Push2 user by the way but this update and commitment of Bitwig team is fantastic. Whatever I wish to have in Live comes with BWS. I guess the time to switch has come.
X32 Desk, i9 PC, S49MK2, Studio One, BWS, Live 12. PUSH 3 SA, Osmose, Summit, Pro 3, Prophet8, Syntakt, Digitone, Drumlogue, OP1-F, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Nord Drum3P, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRian
- 591 posts since 10 Nov, 2005 from New York City
I hope they have some actual useful workflow improvements. They’ve gone down the rabbit hole of modulation - which is fine but after some point is just them wanking themselves off.
At least ableton 10 released some useful functionality for making music.
At least ableton 10 released some useful functionality for making music.
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- KVRian
- 650 posts since 2 Nov, 2014
Will doSLiC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:20 pmBring your PUSH, works great in Bitwigandypryce wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:16 pm This is a big answer for price model complaints and Live comparisons. I mean in a year Bitwig released 2.3, 2.4, 2.5 and now shortly 3. During this time Live couldn't even reach to 10.1. One wonders what are they busy with. And I am sure Bitwig is a much more small company and they are dealing with 3 OS
I am an Ableton Live+Push2 user by the way but this update and commitment of Bitwig team is fantastic. Whatever I wish to have in Live comes with BWS. I guess the time to switch has come.
- KVRist
- 104 posts since 30 Nov, 2018 from U.S.
Wow, this is great. Seems to be a less complex approach than M4L too, which is a good thing IMO. Looks really powerful....*and* hardware modular integration!
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Ableton Live 10 / Push
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- KVRAF
- 4501 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
tried to use the multi-clip MIDI editor in AL ... and there is no track locking (Bitwig has), https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=229185
d'oh and M4L devices are still crashing the whole system d'oh+1, I really wanted to like and use it but the crashing in AL brings back very bad memories ... BWS still bit like the poor man's AL (especially in MIDI editing) but at least never lost a project with it
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"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
- KVRAF
- 3469 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest
Excellent! The more I work with Bitwig the more I start to drift away from Live.
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- KVRAF
- 25421 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
The Grid looks very interesting... I appreciate that all signals are interchangeable. So the output of an Osc can be used to modulate anything! Plus all signals are stereo!
It also looks very easy to auto-connect modules. And then any Grid device can be used like any other Bitwig device... nested, modulated etc etc...
It also looks very easy to auto-connect modules. And then any Grid device can be used like any other Bitwig device... nested, modulated etc etc...
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- KVRAF
- 11176 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
This is a good read on the journey and the vision of Bitwig.
https://www.bitwig.com/en/19/behind-the ... arity.html
https://www.bitwig.com/en/19/behind-the ... arity.html
X32 Desk, i9 PC, S49MK2, Studio One, BWS, Live 12. PUSH 3 SA, Osmose, Summit, Pro 3, Prophet8, Syntakt, Digitone, Drumlogue, OP1-F, Eurorack, TD27 Drums, Nord Drum3P, Guitars, Basses, Amps and of course lots of pedals!
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Reminds me of Mulab's Mux quite a bit. I won't be back until they restore right-click context commands so I don't have to constantly move to the top of the screen, but nice to see they're still hard at it. Still my favorite looking DAW by far.
- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
What on Earth do you mean? 95% of contextually relevant actions are still available under right-click. And if you need that 5% you can likely map a keyboard shortcut to them.jonljacobi wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:53 pmI won't be back until they restore right-click context commands so I don't have to constantly move to the top of the screen
The dynamic tiles menus have to stay for touch control.
Try to do undo/redo and many other actions in Live using just the touch screen... Or map keyboard to actions how you want it...
- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
From the announcement:
This is amazing.Modules like envelopes, LFOs, and sequencers all have modulator outputs as well. And just as Bitwig Studio’s modulators can control any parameter in The Grid, any grid signal can be used to modulate child devices.
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