Bitwig Studio 3

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SLiC
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3404 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:35 am

If Poly Grid is MPE capable and it is easy to set up and use as MPE is generally in BWS that will probably sell a few more Rolli Seaboard Blocks!
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pdxindy
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15161 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:42 am

SoundPorn wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:33 am
This is cool I guess. So whats the difference between this and just say loading Reaktor into Bitwig?
Since the Grid is a part of Bitwig at the core of the app, it will always be integrated. For example, if the core app adds some cool new capability, it is sure to work with the Grid devices.

No additional costs and of course any Grid presets made by users can be used by any other user.

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pdxindy
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15161 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:43 am

SLiC wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:35 am
If Poly Grid is MPE capable and it is easy to set up and use as MPE is generally in BWS that will probably sell a few more Rolli Seaboard Blocks!
And hopefully some Linnstruments!

SLiC
KVRAF
3404 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:22 am

pdxindy wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:43 am
SLiC wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:35 am
If Poly Grid is MPE capable and it is easy to set up and use as MPE is generally in BWS that will probably sell a few more Rolli Seaboard Blocks!
And hopefully some Linnstruments!
Absolutely- the more people come to the MPE party the more VST and DAW manufacturers will consider it an important feature. I only mention blocks as it is AFAIK the cheapest way in...here is a nice B stock one to temp someone :D

https://www.thomann.de/gb/roli_block_se ... 145384076c
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Cinebient
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4082 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:09 am

I am not really up to date about Bitwig and i wonder if MPE is now proper included like in Logic and some other DAWs. Means that it records also all the specific midi channels exactly as i played them. I remember Bitwig did not do that and so it had not the full MPE support i had hoped. Is that solved by now?
Indeed a reason AL is a nogo since they do not care a bit about MPE.

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pdxindy
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15161 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:51 am

Cinebient wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:09 am
Is that solved by now?
Yes, Bitwig added full midi channel support

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jancivil
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17937 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:16 am

Yep, I just checked, they fixed the basic problem at v 2.4.

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jancivil
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17937 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:49 am

Very interesting looking DAW. I'd demo it (I never cared before but the pitch graphic in the piano roll looks nifty) but if you can't save the project, that kind of kills that for me.

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antic604
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2196 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:50 pm

jancivil wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:49 am
Very interesting looking DAW. I'd demo it (I never cared before but the pitch graphic in the piano roll looks nifty) but if you can't save the project, that kind of kills that for me.
I wouldn't worry about that - you'll want to buy the license before it even occurs to you to save the project :D
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Tearing Riots
KVRian
778 posts since 18 Oct, 2014

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:46 am

jancivil wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:49 am
Very interesting looking DAW. I'd demo it (I never cared before but the pitch graphic in the piano roll looks nifty) but if you can't save the project, that kind of kills that for me.

You can save clips/scenes though, incl. their devices.

0degree
KVRist
198 posts since 29 Jan, 2017

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:14 am

Even tough Bitwig pissed me off some tome ago I think I’ll give it another go. I can’t stand Ableton’s flat UI :roll:

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pdxindy
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15161 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:40 am

Tearing Riots wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:46 am
jancivil wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:49 am
Very interesting looking DAW. I'd demo it (I never cared before but the pitch graphic in the piano roll looks nifty) but if you can't save the project, that kind of kills that for me.
You can save clips/scenes though, incl. their devices.
Yeah... you could manage to save a project that way...

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liv
KVRian
1452 posts since 26 Feb, 2013 from Sweden

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:50 pm

Looks very nice from the promo.
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xbitz
KVRAF
2356 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:14 am

yes...finally it happened
...
Changes in Bitwig Studio 2.5, Beta 4
Improvements
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When entering a textual value for a VST 3 plug-in parameter allow user to enter this in the parameter's actual unit instead of a normalized value 0...1
Add new DPI aware setting on Windows that decides if Windows will automatically scale plug-ins that are not DPI aware
When deactivating a plug-in (either directly or when deactivating its track) unload the plugin
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say goodbye to AL, finally worth to replacing plugins to VST 3 in Bitwig, and preload terabyte sampled materials with disabled instruments
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teilo
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244 posts since 30 Mar, 2008

Re: Bitwig Studio 3

Post Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:29 pm

I'm looking forward to being able to use MPE. I have no controller which supports it. However, I am hesitant because MPE's days are numbered. It is a hack that will be replaced with a proper protocol in MIDI 2.0 that supports per-note expression in a far more elegant manner.

Thankfully, the work that Bitwig has done to support MPE today should translate well into full MIDI 2.0 support when the protocol is standardized and published. They have not yet developed themselves into a corner (like Ableton has).

But I don't know the same is true for Roli, Linnstrument, etc. That's why I hesitate to jump on the MPE ship. It's a big investment for something that might not support MIDI 2.0 in 5 years.
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