At first glance one might invoke Poe's Law for this comment, but after reading other posts of this fella, it seems to be Dunning–Kruger effect so intense that it bends space-time.
Eventide Instant Phaser Mk II released
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- KVRist
- 377 posts since 4 Oct, 2002
- KVRAF
- 5678 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
must be a BLAST at parties
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- KVRian
- 1226 posts since 26 Feb, 2016
Its a free upgrade for owners of BOTH Anthology X and Anthology XI.
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- KVRAF
- 3368 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
Well they invented the phaser in the process. Sometimes the best inventions are by accident.perfumer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:35 amEventide wanted to make a flanger and made a phaser, that's how inept they were. So how good could that be? Certainly not 'the best', whatever that is.plexuss wrote: ↑Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:06 amPhase 3 is also very nice. The thing is there are many different phaser approaches/sounds out there I don't think there is just one phaser to beat them all. In terms of the specific phasing that Instant Mk2 creates, it's the best only because it's the only phaser (I know of) that sounds the way it does. Same with Phase 3, although the Phase 3 sound is used in other phasers too. I don't think of Instant Mk2 as a go-to phaser only because it has a unique sound that wont be appropriate in all cases.
...and the flanger came out on the second try. They read up a little, looked at the competition, thought a bit harder - et voila!
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2
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- KVRist
- 377 posts since 4 Oct, 2002
Univibe predates Instant Phaser by more than a few years. Eventide folks most definitely knew what they were doing back then (and ever since), they made studio quality rackmount phaser, they didn't stumble upon it.
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- KVRian
- 1265 posts since 3 Jul, 2009
This is a really great analog style phaser. I probably tested it a whole minute before buying lol. Not very versatile sound wise but it is good when its good. Great sound, GUI and intro price. ($30.99 at everyplugin.com)
- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
Any idea how long this enticing $37 intro price will last? Thanks.
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- KVRAF
- 2087 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
Till Feb 28th, still a bit of time
- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
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- KVRist
- 377 posts since 4 Oct, 2002
Regarding "jerky" LFO, I've checked schematic of original machine and it is a smart little thing.
LFO is actually square LFO going into fixed low pass filter. When LFO speed increase, output waveform resembles triangle wave more and more, with decreasing amplitude as LFO frequency increases. When LFO speed decrease, output waveform resembles square wave more and more. Thing is that sweep rate (when output is swept) is roughly constant and independent of LFO frequency. With LFO frequency in lower range, you get upward sweep then pause than downward sweep then pause again.
With effects such as phasers, choruses and flangers, amount of perceived detune is proportional to sweep rate. This means that with usual LFO modulator scheme, detune amount increase when you increase LFO frequency, and vice versa. OTOH, folks at Eventide probably figured out sweet spot for detune amount, and than made LFO scheme such that detune amount is constant regardless of LFO speed.
EDIT: one big correction, schematic was for BPC-101 phaser expansion card for Instant Flanger, not for PS-101, I haven't found PS-101 schematic, but it would not be surprised that they've used similar scheme.
LFO is actually square LFO going into fixed low pass filter. When LFO speed increase, output waveform resembles triangle wave more and more, with decreasing amplitude as LFO frequency increases. When LFO speed decrease, output waveform resembles square wave more and more. Thing is that sweep rate (when output is swept) is roughly constant and independent of LFO frequency. With LFO frequency in lower range, you get upward sweep then pause than downward sweep then pause again.
With effects such as phasers, choruses and flangers, amount of perceived detune is proportional to sweep rate. This means that with usual LFO modulator scheme, detune amount increase when you increase LFO frequency, and vice versa. OTOH, folks at Eventide probably figured out sweet spot for detune amount, and than made LFO scheme such that detune amount is constant regardless of LFO speed.
EDIT: one big correction, schematic was for BPC-101 phaser expansion card for Instant Flanger, not for PS-101, I haven't found PS-101 schematic, but it would not be surprised that they've used similar scheme.
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- KVRAF
- 3368 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
On the Youtube 'making of' video, they said there were the first pro audio effects box to simulate this effect.
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2
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- KVRist
- 377 posts since 4 Oct, 2002
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 5 Aug, 2011 from Nederland
Great test, thanks!mixtur.se wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:48 pm Hi Guys
I decided to put all my plugins to the test before buying this, you´ll find all the examples here:
https://groovetools.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... otout.html
Tested:
Softube Fix Phaser
Native Instruments Phasis
Eventide Instant Phaser Mk II
Bluecat Phaser
Waves MetaFlanger
Cubase stock Phaser
Phasemistress is my fav, on my wishlist,
followed by Metaflanger which I have.
Don't see the need for the extra watery Eventide Instant Phaser Mk II. But I agree with others that on some occasions it might work very well.
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- KVRAF
- 2087 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
I wanted to use Instant Phaser with a slow modulation but with a regular triangle wave. I worked out two ways to do it: 1) using Voltage Modular and the plugin host module, modulate "manual" with an LFO, or 2) using a 1khz sine wave through a tremelo (goodhertz) and into the side-chain, on envelope mode. Both work pretty well can also modulate the phaser with other waveforms.
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