When stopping playback of a midi clip, W9 often sends no note-off. This only happens with external synths. When using Collective as a sound source it doesn't seem to happen.
If you repeatedly start and stop, it sometimes misses but not always at the same place. It happens mostly on long notes. When you restart, a note-off is sent at the start.
Is this a bug or can something be done to avoid the problem?
W9 (latest) and Windows 10.
No note-off when stopping playback
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- KVRian
- 544 posts since 24 Jan, 2004 from Sweden
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 544 posts since 24 Jan, 2004 from Sweden
Just checked and I could't repeat the problem in the W10 beta. So it seems like it has been fixed.
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- KVRAF
- 1605 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
This happens to me from time to time with both VST and hardware-based synths. It happened with T6, and isn't unique to Tracktion.
So it might happen with W10, given enough time with it.
One of the big causes, I learned a ways back, is self-inflicted. If you record a MIDI performance from hardware (dedicated or a controller running a plug in), you might be tempted to shorten the resulting clip to fit it into the space on your track...not realizing that you are truncating the NOTE OFF event, which doesn't show up in the clip.
Doing so can cause a note to hang. And often, I suspect it's not Waveform, but the hardware or VST not clearly receiving the NOTE OFF, especially if you instantly follow it with another clip and its own NOTE ON events.
However, I still have a couple of hangers now and then with no explanation.
So it might happen with W10, given enough time with it.
One of the big causes, I learned a ways back, is self-inflicted. If you record a MIDI performance from hardware (dedicated or a controller running a plug in), you might be tempted to shorten the resulting clip to fit it into the space on your track...not realizing that you are truncating the NOTE OFF event, which doesn't show up in the clip.
Doing so can cause a note to hang. And often, I suspect it's not Waveform, but the hardware or VST not clearly receiving the NOTE OFF, especially if you instantly follow it with another clip and its own NOTE ON events.
However, I still have a couple of hangers now and then with no explanation.
Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and even Deezer, whatever the hell Deezer is.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 544 posts since 24 Jan, 2004 from Sweden
This isn't what I talk about. The problem here is that notes are not ended when stopping playback manually. If you let them play uninterrupted, they are ended just as they should.Watchful wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:13 pm This happens to me from time to time with both VST and hardware-based synths. It happened with T6, and isn't unique to Tracktion.
So it might happen with W10, given enough time with it.
One of the big causes, I learned a ways back, is self-inflicted. If you record a MIDI performance from hardware (dedicated or a controller running a plug in), you might be tempted to shorten the resulting clip to fit it into the space on your track...not realizing that you are truncating the NOTE OFF event, which doesn't show up in the clip.
Doing so can cause a note to hang. And often, I suspect it's not Waveform, but the hardware or VST not clearly receiving the NOTE OFF, especially if you instantly follow it with another clip and its own NOTE ON events.
However, I still have a couple of hangers now and then with no explanation.
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- KVRAF
- 1605 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
Ah, didn't catch that. Sorry.
That happens to me once in a very rare while. But you're right, I do think that happens in W9 more than it did in T6 for me.
That happens to me once in a very rare while. But you're right, I do think that happens in W9 more than it did in T6 for me.
Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and even Deezer, whatever the hell Deezer is.
More fun at Twitter @watchfulactual
More fun at Twitter @watchfulactual
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spoontechnique spoontechnique https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=418750
- KVRist
- 492 posts since 7 May, 2018
That's happened to me multiple times. It's made some projects very difficult to use. I don't have any insight into it, other than that it happens to me too.
Linux version?
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Peter Widdicombe Peter Widdicombe https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=336849
- KVRian
- 1209 posts since 29 Aug, 2014
In the Settings/MIDI devices / interfaces, do you have the "Send all-controllers-off when play stops" selected?
Waveform 13; Win10 desktop/8 Gig; Win11 Laptop; MPK261; VFX+disfunctional ESQ-1
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 544 posts since 24 Jan, 2004 from Sweden
Yes.Peter Widdicombe wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:49 pm In the Settings/MIDI devices / interfaces, do you have the "Send all-controllers-off when play stops" selected?