Zero-delay (brick-wall) limiter is a sort of clipper!InsertNameHere wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:07 am I already have studio quality plugin limiters that I use, but I'm looking for a zero latency limiter more as protection when playing virtual instruments in a live setting. Any suggestions? PSP just came out with one, and I might just go with that unless convinced otherwise.
Zero Latency Limiter plugin?
- KVRian
- 711 posts since 16 May, 2014 from Germany
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- KVRAF
- 2834 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
having no clue as to what limiter lives inside your DAWInsertNameHere wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:07 am ... zero latency limiter more as protection when playing virtual instruments in a live setting...
LIVE10; it's native limiter has a 0ms latency setting
and it's designed for a "live setting"
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- KVRian
- 1181 posts since 27 May, 2008
Unlimited? Freebie
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heavymetalmixer heavymetalmixer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=391539
- KVRian
- 692 posts since 8 Jan, 2017
One of my favorite limiters, but it has 120 samples of latency so I don't think it serves the purpose of this thread.
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- KVRian
- 692 posts since 8 Jan, 2017
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- KVRian
- 1121 posts since 6 Mar, 2004
The most likely reason is that it actually had latency, it just didn't report it.heavymetalmixer wrote: ↑Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:56 pmIn the past Loudmax was a 0 latency limiter (like up to version 1.22 or 1.23), I don't know why it has latency added now.
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- KVRAF
- 4060 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
Go with a clipper on your main out. It will at least protect your circuitry. That being said there are lot’s of limiters with no latency, they just can’t have look-ahead processing. It’s as simple as that.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 15 Jun, 2016
I've been searching for it too.
So far I found the Steinberg Brickwall Limiter (Cubase Stock Limiter) 1.0ms
Third-party plugins include:
Waves L2 and L3 Ultra are the lowest under 48000Hz sample rate, at 1.3ms.
IK Multimedia TR-5 Brickwall Limiter comes in second, at 1.6 ms
So far I found the Steinberg Brickwall Limiter (Cubase Stock Limiter) 1.0ms
Third-party plugins include:
Waves L2 and L3 Ultra are the lowest under 48000Hz sample rate, at 1.3ms.
IK Multimedia TR-5 Brickwall Limiter comes in second, at 1.6 ms
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- KVRist
- 57 posts since 14 Feb, 2023
X limit from SSL is zero latency and very good
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simon.a.billington simon.a.billington https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=341278
- KVRAF
- 2375 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
This basically.ywshuo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:38 am I've been searching for it too.
So far I found the Steinberg Brickwall Limiter (Cubase Stock Limiter) 1.0ms
Third-party plugins include:
Waves L2 and L3 Ultra are the lowest under 48000Hz sample rate, at 1.3ms.
IK Multimedia TR-5 Brickwall Limiter comes in second, at 1.6 ms
Though Logic's Limiter/Advanced Limiter don't occur additional latency. If you turn off Lookahead and Oversampling if possible that will usually reduce limiter's latency footprint
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- KVRian
- 511 posts since 13 Jul, 2006
Klanghelm DC8C https://klanghelm.com/contents/products/DC8C.html does have a limiter mode and you can set it to 0 latency. At least that's what is reported back to my DAW.
"zero latency brick-wall limiting" is on the list of features.
In general, it's a really great compressor plugin!
"zero latency brick-wall limiting" is on the list of features.
In general, it's a really great compressor plugin!
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- KVRist
- 214 posts since 25 Jan, 2021
- KVRAF
- 7890 posts since 12 Feb, 2006 from Helsinki, Finland
Well.. sorta.
One can think of a clipper with an instant attack and instant release. If you want zero latency, then your limiter has to have an instant attack (in the same sense as a clipper), but it can still have a longer release.
So in terms of the waveform, it essentially clips on one side, but it can still preserve the waveform on the other side after the strongest peak. The most important consequence in practice is that if the signal exceeds the threshold for more than just a single isolated peak, then this sort of limiter can still sometimes pass some of the waveform as long as there is a higher peak first to trigger the GR.