KVR Audio

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:19 pm

I hover over a parameter with a mouse, then use that mac wireless trackpad to change values. Two-handed. Crazy fast. I am going to try a trackball.

logifuzz-vst-plugins · Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:40 pm

Had to leave the mouse behind due to tendonitis, trackballs are superior once you get used on a good piece of hardware (Logitech?) but the real superior pointing devices to me are pen tablets, also available in small size. Again, avoid cheapest ones, Wacom's are better than Genius'es (I had both).

enCiphered · Post by **enCiphered** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:00 am

logifuzz-vst-plugins wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:40 pm Had to leave the mouse behind due to tendonitis, trackballs are superior once you get used on a good piece of hardware (Logitech?) but the real superior pointing devices to me are pen tablets, also available in small size. Again, avoid cheapest ones, Wacom's are better than Genius'es (I had both).

To be honest, I can´t imagine controlling my DAW with a pen tablet. If you use one with a display, selecting tracks or clips could be hit or miss and slow down the workflow. And I would need more space than for a mouse or trackball. But interesting enough to try it out..

logifuzz-vst-plugins · Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:10 am

enCiphered wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:00 am
logifuzz-vst-plugins wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:40 pm Had to leave the mouse behind due to tendonitis, trackballs are superior once you get used on a good piece of hardware (Logitech?) but the real superior pointing devices to me are pen tablets, also available in small size. Again, avoid cheapest ones, Wacom's are better than Genius'es (I had both).
To be honest, I can´t imagine controlling my DAW with a pen tablet. If you use one with a display, selecting tracks or clips could be hit or miss and slow down the workflow. And I would need more space than for a mouse or trackball. But interesting enough to try it out..

I use ones without a display and with a small size, and once you learn your way with absolute tablet/screen mapping they are faster than anything because you can pinpoint clicks near pixel perfect. See if some designer friend of you can borrow one for you to test.

Shalotta · Post by **Shalotta** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:48 am

enCiphered wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:21 am Does anyone use a trackball for his DAW, audio editing, mixing etc. ? ...

Nice question, thinking about it.
Can some recommend a left-handed friendly PS/2 one?

don1thedon · Post by **don1thedon** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:21 am

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Computer-Mic ... -Left-Hand
Only ever seen (but never tried) this example for lefties.
Otherwise I think it’s a choice of the ambidextrous versions similar to this (which I’ve also used & is pretty good).
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kensington-Orb ... rbit+mouse

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:16 am

enCiphered wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:21 am Does anyone use a trackball for his DAW, audio editing, mixing etc. ?

The reason I´m asking is because my desk space is getting smaller and smaller and I reached the point where I can´t move my mouse in any direction without needing to reposition the device itself all the time.
I think I would solve this problem with a trackball. But I´m afraid it could slow down my entire workflow. What are your thoughts guys?

Touchpad on the MacBookPro, I don't need no mouse anymore.

The obvious solution no one dares to touch is to get back some space on the desk. Too crammy, nothing else fits? Clear up the clutter, or expand it!

Shalotta · Post by **Shalotta** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:06 pm

don1thedon wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:21 am https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Computer-Mic ... -Left-Hand
Only ever seen (but never tried) this example for lefties.
Otherwise I think it’s a choice of the ambidextrous versions similar to this (which I’ve also used & is pretty good).
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kensington-Orb ... rbit+mouse

Saved, I`ll take it as a search entry, thank you.

digaldeman · Post by **digaldeman** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:57 pm

I've been using the Logitech M570 Wireless Trackball mouse for years. I don't use a DAW desk/table anymore. I make music on my bed so the bed is my surface for the mouse. The Trackball works perfectly, you just have to get used to it.

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:50 pm

I never quite adjusted, but I know people who swear by them. Missle Command.

Spin Boyz · Post by **Spin Boyz** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:53 pm

I have a M570 and really enjoy it.

enCiphered · Post by **enCiphered** » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:43 pm

Thanks for your input, friends!

I finally decided to buy the kensington expert mouse. After a few hours of use I already love it! It feels much more relaxing to work with, and I find myself working slightly faster than before. I can even program the additional buttons to trigger macros in Cubase which speeds up my workflow!

reggie1979 · Post by **reggie1979** » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:42 am

Edit, I forgot to read the last persons decision. Congrats!

don1thedon · Post by **don1thedon** » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:48 am

enCiphered wrote: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:43 pm Thanks for your input, friends!

I finally decided to buy the kensington expert mouse. After a few hours of use I already love it! It feels much more relaxing to work with, and I find myself working slightly faster than before. I can even program the additional buttons to trigger macros in Cubase which speeds up my workflow!

Good stuff, I’ve also looked at these as a possible alternative to M570. Did you go for a wired or wireless version?
Enjoy!

lfm · Post by **lfm** » Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:07 am

I think the kind that looks like a mouse, but has track ball in thumb position works really well.

SpeedLink Aptico
Logitech MX Ergo
Logitech M570

The ones with track ball on top put more strain on wrist, for me.
Drivers matters a lot, if good sensing of acceleration so can move all over screen in smaller movement. Not being linear all the way.

But use regular mouse for right hand since years, combined with Contour Design Shuttle Express for left hand - having no problem with space.

Using a trackball for DAW editing