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excuse me please · Post by **excuse me please** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:06 pm

Best is debatable, but it does not explain the success of MTV..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wZkTh_T75QY

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:07 pm

vurt wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:55 pm
harryupbabble wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:45 pm Discovered this today. At least Robert Plant's cucumber stays put.
im not sure that's robert plants cock youre looking at...

I don't know about cock, I think it's all cucumber. A cucumber mixup.

Maybe Robert and Bonzo used the same fridge and they don't have their cucumbers labelled with their names?

Seriously, there's a rumour going on that Robert Plant used to wrap a cucumber in tinfoil before putting it in his pants before each concert. Why use tinfoil? My guess is so that the cucumber stays put. I guess Bonzo doesn't care for tinfoil?

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:35 pm

ghettosynth wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:34 pm
Aloysius wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:32 pm Thin Lizzy
+1

"I am just a cowboy, lonely on the trail..."

Zombie Queen · Post by **Zombie Queen** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:07 pm

Hink wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:57 pm
Zombie Queen wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:51 pm Beatles were special. Led Zep is not even any good in my book. This is my opinion and it has my support.
maybe I'm thinking about the wrong person because this is a memory from many years ago but as I recall you have similar feelings toward the scorpions no?

I don't think it was me. Scroprions is a different league for me. Zep is a classic rock legend that sounds awful, something like Queen, or Rolling Stones. Scorpions, I didn't listen much, "Winds of Change" huh? I always though it's a kind of musical joke, like ABBA or Boney M, things you listen for laughs and are good fun even if it's crap musically.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:15 pm

I am not going to weigh in on which of these two bands were better. They have too little in common for this to make sense.

But I do think that two things can be said fairly definitely:

1.The Beatles were much better singers than Plant.

2. Bonham was a much better drummer than Ringo.

Everything else is a matter of preference.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:16 pm

No. Ringo was perfect for the beatles. Bonzo would have been a bad choice for their collective sound.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:33 pm

Aloysius wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:16 pm No. Ringo was perfect for the beatles.

Perhaps, but that doesn't mean
he was very good.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:40 pm

He played to the songs. Phil Collins, no slouch on the drums, has said that he didn't know if he could've come up with the fills in 'A Day in the Life.' All of Zep were technically better musicians, but that doesn't really count for too much in my book, if the songwriting is there.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:49 pm

Bombadil wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:40 pm He played to the songs. Phil Collins, no slouch on the drums, has said that he didn't know if he could've come up with the fills in 'A Day in the Life.' All of Zep were technically better musicians, but that doesn't really count for too much in my book, if the songwriting is there.

Like I said, the rest is a matter of taste. If you like the Beatles more than Led Zeppelin, Ringo's drumming is just fine. And if you prefer Led Zeppelin, Plant's singing is just fine.

But the quality of the Beatles' vocal recordings was remarkable, and the
same is true for Bonham's drum recordings. Both set standards, and could arguably be said to have created new ones.

This assertion is completely separate from any judgement concerning which band was better.

excuse me please · Post by **excuse me please** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:08 pm

Nah, this is unmistakenly Lennon:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8nLraecPRY

Zombie Queen · Post by **Zombie Queen** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:24 pm

herodotus wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:33 pm
Aloysius wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:16 pm No. Ringo was perfect for the beatles.
Perhaps, but that doesn't mean he was very good.

I don't know. I too think Ringo was (considering him a retired drummer) actually really good. He had good timing and he didn't require to have been allowed drum solos in every other song, which is a great treat in a drummer.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:45 pm

Zombie Queen wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:51 pm Beatles were special. Led Zep is not even any good in my book. This is my opinion and it has my support.

Mine too.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:16 am

BONES wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:45 pm
Zombie Queen wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:51 pm Beatles were special. Led Zep is not even any good in my book. This is my opinion and it has my support.
Mine too.

I wouldn't go as far as "not any good". But, I don't like Robert Plant's alleged singing. Bonzo was a great, great drummer and JPJ was a great song writer/arranger. But, against the Beatles? The Beatles were vastly more influential in pretty much every aspect of modern music and music production for the next 20 to 30 years. Their writing style is still text book stuff.

I probably actually like more LZ songs the Beatles songs. But the Beatles were better and more creative writers and producers by a mile.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:19 am

Also, LZ isn't really that original ... the heavy blues based stuff was rampant at the time. I'm not saying they don't have an original sound, but the structure/format and content was very pedestrian. What the beatles were doing starting around Revolver simply didn't have a comparison that I'm aware of. They were sailing their own pop ship.

Bodhisan · Post by **Bodhisan** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:22 am

Ringo or Bonham would have been fantastic in either group - get a grip.

Who is better the Beatles or Led Zeppelin