I hope not. Just got both bundles few minutes agofmr wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:45 pmNever say neverantic604 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:07 pmHe said on FB there won't be Ultimate bundle. But instead, he'll be adding stuff free to existing bundles.fmr wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:32 pm I didn't buy the Vult bundle because I knew that he has much more modules to add, and I was expecting a bundle covering everything at a better price. It ends that he decided to keep the bundles separated for the time being. I will wait for the Vult Ultimate Bundle.I'm pretty sure there will be an "Ultimate" sometime in the future
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Cherry Audio Voltage modular
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12446 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Yeah, I'm aware it'll cost $99. I'm under the impression that developers for VCV can release as many free modules as they want and control the pricing for their modules. That's what I was talking about. Voltage Modular has some rules around what you can release and how if I'm not mistaken. Dan or someone from Cherry can chime in to clarify if there's some misinformation being spread, but it seems like I couldn't just download the SDK and release 50 free modules if I wanted. Whereas VCV allows for just that.antic604 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:39 pmYou know the VCV's VST will be $99 too?Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:25 pmI'm hanging back and waiting for VCV Rack to officially go VST. Should be in the next year. They seem to have a much more open policy regarding free and paid modules. They may level the playing field just by being more open and letting people build and charge what they want.
https://www.facebook.com/vcvrack/posts/ ... &__tn__=-R
Don't be surprised if there will be more paid modules as well... Also, I think price of the modules & bundles is dictated by their authors, not by VM.
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
You're right. Just read the FAQ and it says max 2 free modules and min $10 priceFunkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:50 pmVoltage Modular has some rules around what you can release and how if I'm not mistaken.
https://cherryaudio.com/voltage-module-designer/faq
- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
This means Vult cannot release the promised free additions to the bundles, then?antic604 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:05 pmYou're right. Just read the FAQ and it says max 2 free modules and min $10 priceFunkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:50 pmVoltage Modular has some rules around what you can release and how if I'm not mistaken.
https://cherryaudio.com/voltage-module-designer/faq
Fernando (FMR)
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- 895 posts since 1 Apr, 2005
The question is, how many bundles he will come up with.antic604 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:07 pmHe said on FB there won't be Ultimate bundle. But instead, he'll be adding stuff free to existing bundles.fmr wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:32 pm I didn't buy the Vult bundle because I knew that he has much more modules to add, and I was expecting a bundle covering everything at a better price. It ends that he decided to keep the bundles separated for the time being. I will wait for the Vult Ultimate Bundle.
I don't mind to pay a good money for quality stuff, hence I already got the Macaulay and Vult Rage bundle. If the Fury bundle is supposed to be Vult's last one I would get it soon as well, but if there should be more it's going to become to pricey for my taste.
Cheers,
LiteOn
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- 470 posts since 11 Mar, 2007 from Portugal
I'm assuming that individual FREE is not the same thing as adding modules to an existing bungle.fmr wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:29 pmThis means Vult cannot release the promised free additions to the bundles, then?antic604 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:05 pmYou're right. Just read the FAQ and it says max 2 free modules and min $10 priceFunkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:50 pmVoltage Modular has some rules around what you can release and how if I'm not mistaken.
https://cherryaudio.com/voltage-module-designer/faq
So, it should be possible to add non-free modules to the store while also be able to include them into existing bundles without increasing the bundles price.
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- KVRian
- 895 posts since 1 Apr, 2005
I understood the single modules won't be free, rather they will be added to the bundles without an upgrade fee.fmr wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:29 pm This means Vult cannot release the promised free additions to the bundles, then?
LiteOn
/e: a tad too late
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- KVRAF
- 12446 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
It's a new platform and they've been very receptive to customer feedback so far, so maybe it'll change. Especially around limiting how many free modules can be released. That one just seems particularly silly to me.antic604 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:05 pmYou're right. Just read the FAQ and it says max 2 free modules and min $10 priceFunkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:50 pmVoltage Modular has some rules around what you can release and how if I'm not mistaken.
https://cherryaudio.com/voltage-module-designer/faq
I'm of the "more free modules, particularly really good ones, encourages more sales for Cherry Audio and forces commercial module developers to really step their game up" mindset. That seems win-win to me.
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- KVRAF
- 12446 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
The other thing I think people should keep in mind is that you don't need to "collect them all." These aren't Pokemon. I've been dabbling with the VeeSeeVST plugin, and the free VCV modules alone could keep me busy for the rest of my life.
- KVRAF
- 8494 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
Another matter is that, not everyone wants to sell their modules in the first place. This rule will prevent the appearance of some really great stuff from hobbyist types.
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- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
He still have quite a few modules he built for VCV that didn't appear yet in VM. One of them, which is part of the VCV Compacts Bundle, is a complete synth on its own (Incubus). But two other modules from the Compacts (Knock and Vorg) were already included.LiteOn wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:35 pmThe question is, how many bundles he will come up with.antic604 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:07 pmHe said on FB there won't be Ultimate bundle. But instead, he'll be adding stuff free to existing bundles.fmr wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:32 pm I didn't buy the Vult bundle because I knew that he has much more modules to add, and I was expecting a bundle covering everything at a better price. It ends that he decided to keep the bundles separated for the time being. I will wait for the Vult Ultimate Bundle.
I don't mind to pay a good money for quality stuff, hence I already got the Macaulay and Vult Rage bundle. If the Fury bundle is supposed to be Vult's last one I would get it soon as well, but if there should be more it's going to become to pricey for my taste.
Besides that one, other modules that didn't appear yet are a Russian filter, a Manifold filter (this one is also part of the Compacts Bundle, and consists in all filter modules in a single module), Tohe (a kind of single band EQ), Julste (a low pass gate), Flame (Analog distortion based on guitar pedals), Trummor2 (Drum (and Percussion Synthesizer), Flux (a quad voltage processor), and several other utilities modules.
I think Leonardo's inventory is simply too much to add for free (considering he released bundles with eight modules). Manifold, Incubus and Trummor2 (just these three) would be enough for a new bundle (considering what they have).
Fernando (FMR)
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- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
There is another problem. Mutable Instruments modules code is released for free (as open-source under the MIT license). Someone could pick the code and compile it to run in VM, but they cannot sell them (unless they reach some kind of agreement with Mutable Instruments, as Softube did). Since they cannot release them for free either, I think these will never appear. And they are simply superb.pekbro wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:17 pm I like the Vult stuff as well, I am interested in the hardware versions though. Would have bought 1 last night, but he only had 1 left.![]()
Fernando (FMR)
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- KVRian
- 895 posts since 1 Apr, 2005
Yeah, I had a look at the meantime. Smells like 3 total bundles at least.fmr wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:12 pm He still have quite a few modules he built for VCV that didn't appear yet in VM. One of them, which is part of the VCV Compacts Bundle, is a complete synth on its own (Incubus). But two other modules from the Compacts (Knock and Vorg) were already included.
Thanks for the good description of the Vult modules.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
And the Vessek Osc.... I was hoping for this one to be included. All other osc's are, but the most interesting imo not (yet). Well, there is enough to be expecting at least one more bundle.The question is, how many bundles he will come up with.....
Besides that one, other modules that didn't appear yet are a Russian filter, a Manifold filter (this one is also part of the Compacts Bundle, and consists in all filter modules in a single module), Tohe (a kind of single band EQ), Julste (a low pass gate), Flame (Analog distortion based on guitar pedals), Trummor2 (Drum (and Percussion Synthesizer), Flux (a quad voltage processor), and several other utilities modules.
I'm holding back until then. As good as these modules are, being selective at this point is important.
At 80 dollars a pop, it soon adds up as Wags is finding out. For 80 dollars you can buy a complete synth.
