Maschine 2.8 - where is the factory/expansion preset logo and libraries gone?

[MFXxx]

Just updated to 2.8 (Windows 10) and the library/logo for the manufacturer presets has gone. Not acceissable so unable to directly hotlink to the expansions from the GUIs index. The user logo is fine.

Whats happened? I cant seem to access any of my sounds like I used to . I get the feeling Im missing something really obvious!? Thanks

[Karbon L. Forms]

It's a single toggle button now to move between user/factory.

[Karbon L. Forms]

"CHANGED There is now a single button for toggling the Browser between the Factory and User Libraries"

https://www.native-instruments.com/foru ... 8-0.80682/

[MFXxx]

Yay - more fool me - so simples! Thank you peeps ....walks away humbled lol

[DavidCarlyon]

How are people feeling about this update? Honestly, i have had maschine for a while now, but it has had very little use of late.
I do love it, but it feels way too limited to use standalone, and in other DAWS i just end up using things native to that system, which have better automation, handling etc.

I kept it because i really want to fall back in love with it, but the software just feels more and more dated to me, and the updates seem fairly insignificant.
How do others feel? I hate to sound negative, im not trying to shit on NI: i have plenty of their products and always will have, but its just how i feel.

[telecode]

How are people feeling about this update? Honestly, i have had maschine for a while now, but it has had very little use of late.
I do love it, but it feels way too limited to use standalone, and in other DAWS i just end up using things native to that system, which have better automation, handling etc.

I kept it because i really want to fall back in love with it, but the software just feels more and more dated to me, and the updates seem fairly insignificant.
How do others feel? I hate to sound negative, im not trying to shit on NI: i have plenty of their products and always will have, but its just how i feel.

Personally, I live and beathe with maschine. I can't function without it and the controller. I guess it depends what kind of music you make.

But this fuggin update is dogshit useless. Sounds.com crap. WTF is this? How about they focus on filling in some of the things that are missing in Maschine.

[DavidCarlyon]

How are people feeling about this update? Honestly, i have had maschine for a while now, but it has had very little use of late.
I do love it, but it feels way too limited to use standalone, and in other DAWS i just end up using things native to that system, which have better automation, handling etc.

I kept it because i really want to fall back in love with it, but the software just feels more and more dated to me, and the updates seem fairly insignificant.
How do others feel? I hate to sound negative, im not trying to shit on NI: i have plenty of their products and always will have, but its just how i feel.

Personally, I live and beathe with maschine. I can't function without it and the controller. I guess it depends what kind of music you make.

But this fuggin update is dogshit useless. Sounds.com crap. WTF is this? How about they focus on filling in some of the things that are missing in Maschine.

Yeah, exactly! You just highlighted my main issue with maschine.
May i ask what kind of music you make? I am making mostly house music now and i never see many house or techno producers on maschine, but that definitely doesn't mean they don't exist!

Do you mostly use it in standalone? Or in another DAW? and may i ask what you control with it?
I just started with reaper the other day. I could make an incredible control out of maschine, but i don't know if that is enough to justify having it....
Cheers!

[telecode]

How are people feeling about this update? Honestly, i have had maschine for a while now, but it has had very little use of late.
I do love it, but it feels way too limited to use standalone, and in other DAWS i just end up using things native to that system, which have better automation, handling etc.

I kept it because i really want to fall back in love with it, but the software just feels more and more dated to me, and the updates seem fairly insignificant.
How do others feel? I hate to sound negative, im not trying to shit on NI: i have plenty of their products and always will have, but its just how i feel.

Personally, I live and beathe with maschine. I can't function without it and the controller. I guess it depends what kind of music you make.

But this fuggin update is dogshit useless. Sounds.com crap. WTF is this? How about they focus on filling in some of the things that are missing in Maschine.

Yeah, exactly! You just highlighted my main issue with maschine.
May i ask what kind of music you make? I am making mostly house music now and i never see many house or techno producers on maschine, but that definitely doesn't mean they don't exist!

Do you mostly use it in standalone? Or in another DAW? and may i ask what you control with it?
I just started with reaper the other day. I could make an incredible control out of maschine, but i don't know if that is enough to justify having it....
Cheers!

I use it in another DAW. I use Cubase. I basically make the rhythm parts and structure in Maschine, I turn up the swing all the way up and then throw VST synth and guitar tracks on it. I make sort of rock, blues, synthpopish stuff. I don't think I am a typical user of Maschine. I get the impression it's much bigger with Hip Hop and R&B music makers. I user a Mikro to control Maschine. Some old things i tinkered with you can hear in my sig.

[Slipgate]

I use it in another DAW. I use Cubase. I basically make the rhythm parts and structure in Maschine, I turn up the swing all the way up and then throw VST synth and guitar tracks on it. I make sort of rock, blues, synthpopish stuff. I don't think I am a typical user of Maschine. I get the impression it's much bigger with Hip Hop and R&B music makers. I user a Mikro to control Maschine. Some old things i tinkered with you can hear in my sig.

My music is similar, rock/metal etc, I use Maschine for all sketches / drums then record my guitars into Bitwig.

I have been using it more and more standalone recently, if you could record into the song view I could use it to make most of my music.

One day

[telecode]

I find it's a great tool but missing quite a few features from a regular DAW. Hence you sort of still need a DAW. I was hoping NI would update it and add some DAW type features. Instead they update it and add sounds.com integration. So basically a push for more flexibility with expansiona lite.

[telecode]

I use it in another DAW. I use Cubase. I basically make the rhythm parts and structure in Maschine, I turn up the swing all the way up and then throw VST synth and guitar tracks on it. I make sort of rock, blues, synthpopish stuff. I don't think I am a typical user of Maschine. I get the impression it's much bigger with Hip Hop and R&B music makers. I user a Mikro to control Maschine. Some old things i tinkered with you can hear in my sig.

My music is similar, rock/metal etc, I use Maschine for all sketches / drums then record my guitars into Bitwig.

I have been using it more and more standalone recently, if you could record into the song view I could use it to make most of my music.

One day

Just curious,.how are.you managing and finding Bitwig as a DAW for.rock/metal?

I thought it was.more like Ableton and greared towards EDM.

I might be looking to switch DAW to a more feature rich one. I am on Cubase and looking at either Reaper or Reason.

[mholloway]

Just curious,.how are.you managing and finding Bitwig as a DAW for.rock/metal?

I thought it was.more like Ableton and greared towards EDM.

I might be looking to switch DAW to a more feature rich one. I am on Cubase and looking at either Reaper or Reason.

Point 1: No single DAW out there is "geared toward" any particular genre. Ableton is no more "geared toward" EDM than it is toward hip hop or, hell, country music. Whatever led you to believe it's "geared toward" EDM is, pure and simple, a load of BS / misinformation.

Point 2: Cubase is incredibly feature-rich. So much so that it's often criticized for being over-bloated with features. It's not my DAW of choice, but your statement about leaving it for a "more feature rich" DAW suggests you're not really aware of what the DAW you're already using is capable of.

[telecode]

Just curious,.how are.you managing and finding Bitwig as a DAW for.rock/metal?

I thought it was.more like Ableton and greared towards EDM.

I might be looking to switch DAW to a more feature rich one. I am on Cubase and looking at either Reaper or Reason.

Point 1: No single DAW out there is "geared toward" any particular genre. Ableton is no more "geared toward" EDM than it is toward hip hop or, hell, country music. Whatever led you to believe it's "geared toward" EDM is, pure and simple, a load of BS / misinformation.

Point 2: Cubase is incredibly feature-rich. So much so that it's often criticized for being over-bloated with features. It's not my DAW of choice, but your statement about leaving it for a "more feature rich" DAW suggests you're not really aware of what the DAW you're already using is capable of.

You make valid points but I am not sure the workflows for all DAW's are geared for any and all genres.

My impression of Bitwig was it's a electronic music centric DAW compared to something like ProTools or Cubase.

[Slipgate]

I use it in another DAW. I use Cubase. I basically make the rhythm parts and structure in Maschine, I turn up the swing all the way up and then throw VST synth and guitar tracks on it. I make sort of rock, blues, synthpopish stuff. I don't think I am a typical user of Maschine. I get the impression it's much bigger with Hip Hop and R&B music makers. I user a Mikro to control Maschine. Some old things i tinkered with you can hear in my sig.

My music is similar, rock/metal etc, I use Maschine for all sketches / drums then record my guitars into Bitwig.

I have been using it more and more standalone recently, if you could record into the song view I could use it to make most of my music.

One day

Just curious,.how are.you managing and finding Bitwig as a DAW for.rock/metal?

I thought it was.more like Ableton and greared towards EDM.

I might be looking to switch DAW to a more feature rich one. I am on Cubase and looking at either Reaper or Reason.

No issues so far - I sometimes use session view to jam riffs, but it works in the same way as a normal DAW really has the standard linear view as well. I'm interested in the modular stuff that is coming in the next version.

[DavidCarlyon]

I use it in another DAW. I use Cubase. I basically make the rhythm parts and structure in Maschine, I turn up the swing all the way up and then throw VST synth and guitar tracks on it. I make sort of rock, blues, synthpopish stuff. I don't think I am a typical user of Maschine. I get the impression it's much bigger with Hip Hop and R&B music makers. I user a Mikro to control Maschine. Some old things i tinkered with you can hear in my sig.

My music is similar, rock/metal etc, I use Maschine for all sketches / drums then record my guitars into Bitwig.

I have been using it more and more standalone recently, if you could record into the song view I could use it to make most of my music.

One day

Just curious,.how are.you managing and finding Bitwig as a DAW for.rock/metal?

I thought it was.more like Ableton and greared towards EDM.

I might be looking to switch DAW to a more feature rich one. I am on Cubase and looking at either Reaper or Reason.

I have been through them all in recent years. After growing up on pro tools i finally bouight maschine in 2015. Then moved to ableton when i wanted a DAW (and was making more and more elctonic music)
then found studio one and fell in love. The moved to tracktion waveform, then finally bitwig (tracktion was really unstable)
Anyway, it turns out bitwig won't speak to my hardware synths via sysex...so i had to look again for something else (really bored of looking by this point...specially since i found something i love)
So i thought i would check out the one that everyone says 'can do anything' - reaper.

It has been less than a week and i can already do so much in this program it is crazy.

What i would say is - yes ableton and Bitwig are definitely geared towards synth, sample/synth drums. But that doesn't mean they are no good for other things. Just that a lot of their features are geared towards that, so you probably wouldnt use the things that make them great, whilst also missing other features that are specifically great for say - editing guitars.
Bitwig is better than ableton for audio editing, whilst ableton is really good if you work with push (though bitwig can work with push also if you download the 'push4bitwig' script by a gus called moss.

Personally, for guitar based music, i would be using either studio one or, for more complex feature set - reaper.
It really depends how deep you are gonna be getting. Unless you REALLY need the hyper deep features, iwould recommend studio one, as it is really, really easy to get on with and still has loads of great features. It is beautifully designed and just works really well.

That said, reaper is insanely deep and as of now, my DAW of choice.

After being really comfortable in pro tools whilst i was engineering in studios, to then moving around DAWs in a pursuit of somehting that will cater to my modern workflow, i have a pretty good sense of the major ones. One thing i would say is it is best to start out by asking 'exactly what do i want to achieve'
Maybe come up with a list of features you absolutely need, then a list that you would like, and find the one that best fits.

I now have a slate Raven i am not using, a maschine mk3 i am not using, a push 2 i am seldom using...if i had gone to reaper straight away i wouldn't have ended up with so much stuff!!