Maschine 2.8 - where is the factory/expansion preset logo and libraries gone?

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I use it in another DAW. I use Cubase. I basically make the rhythm parts and structure in Maschine, I turn up the swing all the way up and then throw VST synth and guitar tracks on it. I make sort of rock, blues, synthpopish stuff. I don't think I am a typical user of Maschine. I get the impression it's much bigger with Hip Hop and R&B music makers. I user a Mikro to control Maschine. Some old things i tinkered with you can hear in my sig.

My music is similar, rock/metal etc, I use Maschine for all sketches / drums then record my guitars into Bitwig.

I have been using it more and more standalone recently, if you could record into the song view I could use it to make most of my music.

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Just curious,.how are.you managing and finding Bitwig as a DAW for.rock/metal?

I thought it was.more like Ableton and greared towards EDM.

I might be looking to switch DAW to a more feature rich one. I am on Cubase and looking at either Reaper or Reason.

I have been through them all in recent years. After growing up on pro tools i finally bouight maschine in 2015. Then moved to ableton when i wanted a DAW (and was making more and more elctonic music)
then found studio one and fell in love. The moved to tracktion waveform, then finally bitwig (tracktion was really unstable)
Anyway, it turns out bitwig won't speak to my hardware synths via sysex...so i had to look again for something else (really bored of looking by this point...specially since i found something i love)
So i thought i would check out the one that everyone says 'can do anything' - reaper.

It has been less than a week and i can already do so much in this program it is crazy.

What i would say is - yes ableton and Bitwig are definitely geared towards synth, sample/synth drums. But that doesn't mean they are no good for other things. Just that a lot of their features are geared towards that, so you probably wouldnt use the things that make them great, whilst also missing other features that are specifically great for say - editing guitars.
Bitwig is better than ableton for audio editing, whilst ableton is really good if you work with push (though bitwig can work with push also if you download the 'push4bitwig' script by a gus called moss.

Personally, for guitar based music, i would be using either studio one or, for more complex feature set - reaper.
It really depends how deep you are gonna be getting. Unless you REALLY need the hyper deep features, iwould recommend studio one, as it is really, really easy to get on with and still has loads of great features. It is beautifully designed and just works really well.

That said, reaper is insanely deep and as of now, my DAW of choice.

After being really comfortable in pro tools whilst i was engineering in studios, to then moving around DAWs in a pursuit of somehting that will cater to my modern workflow, i have a pretty good sense of the major ones. One thing i would say is it is best to start out by asking 'exactly what do i want to achieve'
Maybe come up with a list of features you absolutely need, then a list that you would like, and find the one that best fits.

I now have a slate Raven i am not using, a maschine mk3 i am not using, a push 2 i am seldom using...if i had gone to reaper straight away i wouldn't have ended up with so much stuff!!

I used to use Logic before Apple bought it. Then I switched to Cubase 6.x after I got the LE version with Maschine and have been sticking with it and the upgrades ever since. I am at 9.5 and it seems to work fine on my setup. I think I am at a point where I might need to upgrade to an *.artist* version of something. So the things I am looking at at this point is Cubase Artist, Reason, Reaper, and maybe StudioOne.

I don't really make over the top guitar music.. so it's not like i am going to be having 100's of guitar tracks. but i do find i am leaning towards electronic (just because of the nature of the tools I have) but mixing in sounds i can make with electric and acoustic guitars and lapsteels -- just so i can make stuff that sounds a little sonically different than someone who is tied soley to a keyboard and VSTs.

the upgrade to Cubase Artist -- $375
Reason -- $379
StudioOne Artist $136
Reaper $60

Steinberg usually have their upgrade offers of 40% off in the summer. so until then, I can keep looking around.. The thing keeping me in the Steinberg ecosystem is that I use Cubasis on an iPad and its handy to be able to seamlessly move projects from the iPad to the main system, though I have yet to actually make anything useful with Cubasis. I also recently tried out the Halion product and it seems really cool. I can totally see why its useful in a studio setting.

ahh.. decisions ... decisions...