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dickiefunk · Post by **dickiefunk** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:00 am

Hi,

I’m looking for an alternative to the Waves Vocal Rider. I’ve had a quick look and found products by Melda M-AutoVolume and Hornet Autogain PromkII.

Are there any other options I’ve missed?

What would you recommend for best quality of results?

Thanks

garfield78 · Post by **garfield78** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:42 am

you can try "sandra4 " http://www.cliostudios.com/index.php/pr ... w-sandra-4

You have deetrim too https://dotec-audio.com/test/deetrim.html

and the must have (for me) Powair : https://www.soundradix.com/products/powair/

bassg · Post by **bassg** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:30 am

TBPro Audio Gainrider 2 https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/gainrider2.html
WA Production Outlaw https://www.waproduction.com/plugins/view/outlaw

Sorry, can't comment on the quality, don't use any of these. The only "auto gain" plugs I use from time to time is Hornet Normalizer and Hornet VU Meter MK3.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:54 am

I think HoRNeT have some auto-gain plug-ins.

crimsonmerry · Post by **crimsonmerry** » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:41 pm

TBProAudio DynaRide. Even though i designed the look of this plugin, but i won't write it here if i don't think it was worth to check.

Ou_Tis · Post by **Ou_Tis** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:29 am

Unlike Vocal Rider, Outlaw doesn't have sidechain (so you can't have the vocal level automatically adjust relative to other tracks) and its gate only filters out soft sounds (as opposed to voice vs breath or other non-singing noise). However its gain riding is good and it's on sale for $8. Was considering it but think I'll pass, since I already have Vocal Rider.

sidrat · Post by **sidrat** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:32 pm

Melda and Hornet both have plugs similar to Vocal Rider...

ozonepaul · Post by **ozonepaul** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:46 pm

MAutoVolume by Melda:
https://www.meldaproduction.com/MAutoVolume

mike_the_ranger · Post by **mike_the_ranger** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:21 pm

Vocal Rider has the really big advantage of writing the automation data.

HoRNet · Post by **HoRNet** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:18 am

Our AutoGain, AutoGain Pro and AutoGain Pro MK2 write automation too... ;D

Saverio

mike_the_ranger · Post by **mike_the_ranger** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:07 pm

HoRNet wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:18 am Our AutoGain, AutoGain Pro and AutoGain Pro MK2 write automation too... ;D

Saverio

That's great! I was refering to the melda one in my mind that definitely isn't able to do that

ramseysounds · Post by **ramseysounds** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:58 pm

Are you discounting Vocal Rider altogether? Used it but don't like it?
It's usually on sale for $29. Great plug in. use it on most tracks.

sidrat · Post by **sidrat** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:37 pm

mike_the_ranger wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:21 pm Vocal Rider has the really big advantage of writing the automation data.

So does Melda, BTW..

mike_the_ranger · Post by **mike_the_ranger** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:41 pm

sidrat wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:37 pm
mike_the_ranger wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:21 pm Vocal Rider has the really big advantage of writing the automation data.
So does Melda, BTW..

You sure? There are plenty discussions in the melda forum why this feature has been removed...

ozonepaul · Post by **ozonepaul** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:46 pm

mike_the_ranger wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:21 pm Vocal Rider has the really big advantage of writing the automation data.

You can write automation with Melda MAutoVolume, but as the automation accuracy is not fast enough you are much better off spending time setting the parameters properly and than just let MAutoVolume do it's "magic".(I get great results with MAutoVolume, but usually it takes a bit of time to set it up properly: for example I play around with it's filters etc, to limit the input signal to the frequency range that's most characteristic of the sound.)
I guess the original design philosophy behind MAutoVolume is that it should replace the need for automation. Also MAutoVolume is not only intended to be used on vocals but on all kinds of other source signals, so compared to Waves Vocal Rider MAutoVolume is a way more versatile (and complex) tool which can be a huge advantage or a huge disadvantage depending what is it that someone is looking for. If someone only needs a tool to "ride vocals" than I think the waves vocal rider is the better option (as it's simpler to use), but ifsomeone needs something to be used on all kinds of source signals than I think MAutoVolume is the better tool.
There is a topic in the Melda forum section called "Writing automation with Mautovolume?":
viewtopic.php?t=376709

Alternative to Waves Vocal Rider?