Hive 2 is coming!

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Funkybot's Evil Twin
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6137 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:15 am

This might be a good time to remind people that if you buy Hive now, you'll get a free upgrade to Hive 2. #JustSayin

spunkmuffin
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821 posts since 5 Sep, 2014 from Heaven

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:03 am

vurt wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:15 am
anyone else think balls in orbit sounds fun?
No that sounds painful vurt.

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Are FUNC1 and FUNC2 different? I see FUNC1 has a 'Rising' and 'Moving' switch, while FUNC2 has 'Falling' and 'Still'.
The new section looks suspiciously similar to the Rossum Control Forge.
Urs you should show this to Dave at Superbooth, he'll be just down the corridor: u-he vs Rossum :D
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Urs
u-he
23477 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:25 am

spunkmuffin wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:03 am
Are FUNC1 and FUNC2 different? I see FUNC1 has a 'Rising' and 'Moving' switch, while FUNC2 has 'Falling' and 'Still'.
Those are not switches. Those are additional modulation signals. "Rising" goes high while Func1 goes up. So if you use Func1 as an LFO, you get your triangle/sawtooth shaped output from the A and D stages plus a free squarewave output as well. Latter is variable in pulsewidth by the ratio between A and D.

Now, Falling does the same in Func2, but during D stage. Moving and Still do something similar, they go high while the Funcs move or stand still respectively.

What you do with it... lots of things. You can get a square wave which runs at an even fraction of an LFO (aka Clock Divider). You can trigger one Func as an envelope from another when, say, Glide is over or when some ADSR envelope reached sustain/zero. You can delay a modulation and fade it in. You can observe if the ModWheel is turned and start an envelope.

One of my favourite applications is to trigger a function generator envelope from a stepped random LFO. This way you get a random rhythm that is quantized to LFO rate. It's pretty OMG with pads and stuff.

spunkmuffin
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821 posts since 5 Sep, 2014 from Heaven

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:13 am

Urs wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:25 am
Those are not switches.
Well they look like slider switches. If it looks like a switch I'm gonna try and switch it. :hihi: Why are they all switched to the right? And why is the 'Moving' one lit blue? Does it blink with the signal? If each Func has multiple signals how do you select which signal when you are assigning a Func? Also, in the shape sequencer why are some coloured blocks full-colour and others half-colour? Hehe I'm sure it will become clear with 5 minutes of use...or maybe 10 minutes...or... :phew: 8)
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Urs
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23477 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:28 am

spunkmuffin wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:13 am
Urs wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:25 am
Those are not switches.
Well they look like slider switches. If it looks like a switch I'm gonna try and switch it. :hihi: Why are they all switched to the right? And why is the 'Moving' one lit blue? Does it blink with the signal? If each Func has multiple signals how do you select which signal when you are assigning a Func? Also, in the shape sequencer why are some coloured blocks full-colour and others half-colour? Hehe I'm sure it will become clear with 5 minutes of use...or maybe 10 minutes...or... :phew: 8)
It'll be immediately clear.

"why is the 'Moving' one lit blue?" - because it's an LED showing its state. The oval aerea around it will probably expand over the labels and become a fully mouse-over sensitive drag area for a modulation target.

"why are some coloured blocks full-colour and others half-colour?" - full colour = the segment that is currently played back in the sequence. Half colour = a segment which is selected for the sequence, but not currently being played.

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Shape Sequence A is represented in the top row (blue). It plays an envelope made out of shapes 1, 2 and 4. Currently it's doing shape 2.

Shape Sequence B has the two segments in the greenish row selected. So it does segments 3 and 4. Currently it's at segment 3.

C (pink/red) does 2,3 5 and 6. Currently at 5.

D (brownish) does 3,4, 6,7,8. Currently doing 7.

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nachenko
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175 posts since 13 Mar, 2018

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:25 am

Urs wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:25 am
One of my favourite applications is to trigger a function generator envelope from a stepped random LFO. This way you get a random rhythm that is quantized to LFO rate. It's pretty OMG with pads and stuff.
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hollo
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988 posts since 28 Dec, 2004

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Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:17 pm

Excited times again :D
Hive is already rised a lot of levels, where it will goes.. counting back to the launch of the rocket :tu:

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vurt
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42935 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:30 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:15 am
This might be a good time to remind people that if you buy Hive now, you'll get a free upgrade to Hive 2. #JustSayin
will this save me money?
im thinking, from a big release pov by the dev. a ramp in sales post update is preferable to giving out free updates?
sales figures matter! i think? :hihi:

what say you urs? which is preferable for you?

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Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:13 pm

I actually thought someone had posted an image of a reason rack extension lol :D.
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pdxindy
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15137 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:05 pm

I like how little space it takes in relation to how much capability it has...

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Yorrrrrr
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737 posts since 25 Sep, 2011 from Cartagena - Colombia

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:13 pm

And it looks lovely! Are there improvements under the hood Urs? Engine quality, filters, oscillators, effects and such?

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Touch The Universe
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3608 posts since 2 Oct, 2008

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:36 pm

looks like hive is approaching spaceship territory, but not yet in the realm of rockets, okay by me
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wilx
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109 posts since 23 Apr, 2006

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:32 am

The lighter grey background looks much better for the eyes - I would go even further. Some of NI's new stuff like Massive X has a nice, light background which is great for contrast and legibility.

The new west coast stuff sounds very cool indeed. And re. balls in orbit, there are subtle, low-contrast ways of doing that which won't make Hive look like a christmas tree. Regardless, looking forward to Hive 2. I imagine it will get used even more than it is now (which is a LOT 8) ).

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EvilDragon
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17843 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:34 am

Yorrrrrr wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:13 pm
Engine quality, filters, oscillators, effects and such?
No changes there.

MorpherX
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119 posts since 17 Feb, 2014

Re: Hive 2 is coming!

Post Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:22 am

In my view this new Func Mods are completely overcomplicated for Hive's concept and are a total flop. It's of course a callange for a developer to program something new, but not always is something news better than what already exists. 2 or 4 simple MSEGs would have been much better in every aspect, especially to Hive`s concept of "easy to use".

Even in Zebra 3 I would not use it because it takes to long time to fidel out any usefull things.

Beside this the GUI of this Hive 2 looks like the cockpit of a military jet or U-Boot, at least in my view.
Sorry, but I will stay with Hive 1.2, because of wavetables, the nice GUI, easy to usage and good sound.

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