Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

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SparkySpark
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1503 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Skövde, Sweden

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:28 am

Heads up - Gullfoss is now available for Windows! 50% off currently, and also reduced price (25% off or so) for Macs.

I've waited for it for months, so tried to use it, but the iLok activation screwed things up, so I contacted support (after my third unsuccessful try, I was banned and the msg told me to buy Gullfoss as I had tried too many times). I really think it's a shame iLok activation is needed for TRYING OUT the product in demo mode! :o
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mike_the_ranger
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138 posts since 16 Feb, 2017

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:31 am

No problems here with the ilok. But I agree it is very uncomfortable for a simple demo. It should be available for all and to may catch even the dongle haters.

vitocorleone123
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188 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:43 am

I'd think that removing iLok code/requirements is hard and can introduce bugs. Including it in the demo also makes it easy, I'm sure, to move from demo -> paid.

I bought it for $99 (will also put it on my Mac when the intro period is over), even though that makes it one of the most expensive single effect plugins I own.

Hanz Meyzer
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1077 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:46 am

I don't even need an audiounit. Why I then have to pay for it extra? :? I guess some Apple blame tax or something. I am not responsible for Apple's decisions.

SparkySpark
KVRAF
1503 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Skövde, Sweden

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:52 am

Glad iLok worked out for you. I still have trouble with it, and am now installing the very latest version. On the bright side, support replied to me within an hour so they are very responsive. :tu:

(Support told me to install the latest version, so that's the first tip for anyone having the same trouble. Basically, i have been able to activate the trial in iLok Manager, but though rebooting, I still get the Activate popup and then everything fails.)
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Ploki
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728 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:15 pm

SparkySpark wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:52 am
Glad iLok worked out for you. I still have trouble with it, and am now installing the very latest version. On the bright side, support replied to me within an hour so they are very responsive. :tu:

(Support told me to install the latest version, so that's the first tip for anyone having the same trouble. Basically, i have been able to activate the trial in iLok Manager, but though rebooting, I still get the Activate popup and then everything fails.)
Ironically, support said iLok is super great and they switched because they won't have to deal with so much support for licensing.
I love sound theory and gullfoss, but i seriously hope iLok bites them back enough they keep supporting the old authentication method.
Hanz Meyzer wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:46 am
I don't even need an audiounit. Why I then have to pay for it extra? :? I guess some Apple blame tax or something. I am not responsible for Apple's decisions.
What the hell are you on about? Nobody is paying extra for Audio Unit

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plexuss
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2844 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:24 pm

Ploki wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:15 pm
I love sound theory and gullfoss, but i seriously hope iLok bites them back enough they keep supporting the old authentication method.
You hope that?? Wow, that's unfortunate. I feel sorry for you. :phones:

Hanz Meyzer
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1077 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:36 pm

Ploki wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:15 pm
What the hell are you on about? Nobody is paying extra for Audio Unit
Just look at the prices, gsus...

Ploki
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728 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:54 pm

plexuss wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:24 pm
Ploki wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:15 pm
I love sound theory and gullfoss, but i seriously hope iLok bites them back enough they keep supporting the old authentication method.
You hope that?? Wow, that's unfortunate. I feel sorry for you. :phones:
Nah, i just really dislike iLok. I'm allowed to, or not?
Hanz Meyzer wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:36 pm
Just look at the prices, gsus...
Yes, it has been clarified already - windows is at introductory pricing, mac already had that, when it was well, introduced. You can buy the Windows version and wait for couple of months till the introductory price is over to use it on Mac.
there is no extra "apple tax" or some bs.

Hanz Meyzer
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1077 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:15 pm

Don't geddit. You mean I can buy the Windows version and then also will have the Mac version?

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plexuss
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2844 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:39 pm

Ploki wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:54 pm
plexuss wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:24 pm
Ploki wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:15 pm
I love sound theory and gullfoss, but i seriously hope iLok bites them back enough they keep supporting the old authentication method.
You hope that?? Wow, that's unfortunate. I feel sorry for you. :phones:
Nah, i just really dislike iLok. I'm allowed to, or not?
Absolutely. If you don't like iLok did you end up getting Gullfoss? Running the demo?

I hated the idea of iLok before I got iLok. But I love iLok because of the tools it makes accessible to me. I also like the idea of having licenses on a USB key instead of constrained to my computer which makes life easier in the event of a computer failure.

ILok gives you access to Liquidsonics reverbs... that's gotta be worth something. They are some of the best sounding reverbs I've heard. :phones:

garfield78
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61 posts since 11 Jun, 2013

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:42 pm

I have almost all my audio software with ilok protection , and i haven't problems with this .I found the ilok with his dongle is better than other online protection....It's my mind :shrug:

I have buy gullfoss on windows version , and i haven't problem with ilok. :tu:

SparkySpark
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1503 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Skövde, Sweden

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:06 am

Hi,

Didn't want to start an iLok flaming thread... :wink:

Anyway, for anyone else having trouble: I can confirm that after updating iLok Manager to 5.0.2, it worked flawlessly. My computer is just six months old, but for some reason I had iLok Manager 2.5! And they look exactly the same (I found the version number in the Help menu of iLok Manager)! It also surprised me that I needed to update as I tried to use the cloud version for my activation. But as I said (and support told me), updating to the newest version of iLok Manager did the trick.

Also, I was confused given the choice of Activate and Try. Since there was a choice, I thought that Activate meant inserting a (purchased) license code, and that Try meant starting the trial. Apparently, that was not the case (or so it seems). I have no idea what Try is for, if it's not for - well - trying out the VST. :)

So now it works and my tracks sound less dull and perhaps also more definable. :)

However, I feel I get a bit of a pumping effect. I assume it has to do with having the settings too high, and will have to dig more into the manual.
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Ploki
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728 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:42 am

plexuss wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:39 pm
Ploki wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:54 pm
plexuss wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:24 pm
Ploki wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:15 pm
I love sound theory and gullfoss, but i seriously hope iLok bites them back enough they keep supporting the old authentication method.
You hope that?? Wow, that's unfortunate. I feel sorry for you. :phones:
Nah, i just really dislike iLok. I'm allowed to, or not?
Absolutely. If you don't like iLok did you end up getting Gullfoss? Running the demo?

I hated the idea of iLok before I got iLok. But I love iLok because of the tools it makes accessible to me. I also like the idea of having licenses on a USB key instead of constrained to my computer which makes life easier in the event of a computer failure.

ILok gives you access to Liquidsonics reverbs... that's gotta be worth something. They are some of the best sounding reverbs I've heard. :phones:
Nah, i bought it for mac last year and have the old licensing model, which for me, works great.
I do have iLok for ProTools, but it's unreliable, very picky about ports, uses up one USB port all the time + i have a dual machine setup so if i forget an iLok i'm screwed.

on the other hand, all plugins I use allow activation on two systems so i have both machines authorised and working fine.
Hanz Meyzer wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:15 pm
Don't geddit. You mean I can buy the Windows version and then also will have the Mac version?
yes, but you will be only be able to activate the mac version after the introductory price period has been over.
most plugins upon their release have a short period of "introductory pricing", and Win version of Gullfoss is treated as such.
Because Mac version already had an introductory version last year for discount, Sound Theory is trying to discourage Mac buyers to take advantage of Windows version introductory pricing by limiting their ability to activate a discounted license during the introductory period.
SparkySpark wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:06 am


So now it works and my tracks sound less dull and perhaps also more definable. :)

However, I feel I get a bit of a pumping effect. I assume it has to do with having the settings too high, and will have to dig more into the manual.
when i use it on a mix or a bus, if i need to push it beyond 30-40% that usually means something is fundamentally wrong on the source.
it's actually a very good "audible" analyser, because it can show you some of the problems your mix might have when pushed :)

I never used it beyond 30-40% for balancing purposes.

Caine123
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5662 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Re: Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ

Post Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:39 am

Im just testin it on different material and i really seem to like it. It seems more smooth and less? Cpu hog than unfilter.
I dont know yet how to control it well though. I use recover max. 50% and adjust the rest even lower around +/- 20% max. More sounds too fake so far.
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