Screw you Avid, i hope you go bankrupt

[Hink]

Looking on the brightside, over at Reaper there are human beings with feelings waiting.

What, as opposed to the dicks who cant see a thread about any other software without trying to pimp Reaper in it?

getting old indeed

edit: same person as in this thread 5 posts and 7 posts in viewforum.php?f=7 wouldn't be surprised if these attempts at derailing got replaced with NART (same thing I said in that thread)

[chk071]

Avid, I hope you die together with pace and your executives die poor and in debt.

Yeah, nice, innit? Forums where you can vomit your soul out are a great thing.

[Ploki]

It's tough to beat ProTools if your primarily concerned with recording live audio.
For most of us though, it's not overly practical.

Would pick logic any day for recoding live audio, the only area where pro tools is good is audio post production, and even then, it's mostly leaning on the Digidesign heritage - nothing to do with avid anywy

[masterhiggins]

This thread has singlehandedly ruined Avid.

RIP

[Spencer Maddox]

This thread has singlehandedly ruined Avid.

RIP

August 1987 - Friday March 22nd 2019.

F

[Ploki]

you're welcome

[Topcheese]

Is Pro Tools still even Relevant?

Yeah I was wondering why they would label a product PT2018 in the first place, I mean what respectable professional company does that in this day and age?

Oh yeah, BIAB 2019.

[V0RT3X]

I need more coffee

[kelldammit]

Relevance depends.
If you're working in a pro studio or are an A-list mixer...yeah, you have to have it.
But mostly, from film composers to pop stars these days (who end up needing the nicer studios/engineers for mix or whatnot), my understanding is that they just compose, etc in whatever daw, then dump out to stems or record the tracks to a PT session after the fact for the "big house" processes later on.
If that isn't your situation, and none of your other bandmates or collaborators are tied to PT...then just use whatever floats your boat.
I've done a fair number of audio records (mostly for video production), and have never been asked for a PT session...only 24 bit (at whatever sample rate) wave stems.

[Spencer Maddox]

Yea Relevant was the wrong word choice, It's just seems to Lack any fanfare around it, any buzz, or really huge updates. I guess thats just how it rolls. Still find some of the lacking features it has to be eye opening. Like no Folders.

[someone called simon]

There's a great Youtube channel featuring an english media composer who also works for Spitfire Audio who make really good orchestral sample libraries etc.

It's funny, he works in Logic, even says that EXS24 is his favourite sampler, though Spitfire's stuff comes out for Kontakt.

But he puts together stuff in Logic for movies and TV shows, and exports stems for Protools. So that's what is used when the TV production people are putting together all the audio - music, SFX, dialogue, foley etc...

It's a really fascinating channel on lots of levels. Some of it is music tech but a lot of it is more broadly based. Which is pretty unrelated to the topic but... other people might enjoy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-y6n30XQGo

[DrumAddict]

There's a great Youtube channel featuring an english media composer who also works for Spitfire Audio who make really good orchestral sample libraries etc.

its not an Media Composer only , thats Christian Henson , one of the founder of Spitfire Audio .

just saying .

[kelldammit]

Yea Relevant was the wrong word choice, It's just seems to Lack any fanfare around it, any buzz, or really huge updates. I guess thats just how it rolls. Still find some of the lacking features it has to be eye opening. Like no Folders.

Well, we're on kvr. It's not like you can modulate a midi clip six ways to sunday in PT like you can in live or bitwig or whatever. PT doesn't have the decades of midi under the hood that other sequencers do, either. The midi/synth nerd just isn't Avid's market. If you went to "the purple place", you'd probably see more to-do about PT than, say, bitwig. But here, i am not surprised that it doesn't get much hype, though i know that there are some regular users about.

In terms of missing features...sometimes, they seem to be constrained by hardware (like, say, latency compensation...available in cubendo since y2k-ish). Other times, they just seem happy to let other companies deal with the teething pains of new tech before they roll out that feature in a more refined way. Not a stupid policy. They may not get hype, but they don't get the flak, either.
Re: lack of folders...your guess is as good as mine!

[Ploki]

they get plenty of Flak because of the Avid brand anyway

[SokeL]

I use Pro tools for about 17 years, and I still like it. BTW, nobody likes the updates policy of AVID, not for freelancers at all.
(I need to use 2018 Ultimate, and the update plans are incredible expensive for me )) )
If I was not involved in Post Production process (AAF, OMF, rerecording studios with Pro Tools and so on), I prefer Reaper for audio editing, Logic for music.