No, as in "it's just a game".IncarnateX wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:39 pmAs in “being ignorant” ? Already covered in 1) , 6) and 7)
Why will software people not admit hardware sounds better?
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These are the first sane words I have read in this thread apart from my own.pekbro wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:40 pm From my limited experience, they don’t behave the same and therefore sound different. IMO hardware sounds better, even hardware that’s driven by software, which is largely the case nowdays. Despite all the cool math, models of the way electricity behaves can never truly be accurate because it’s impossible to account for every variable.
A reasonable facsimile is one thing, but that’s all they are. Like it or not.
+1 Bro. Finally a sign of intelligent life at KVR.
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Bowie disagrees, you lose:stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:40 pmNo, as in "it's just a game".IncarnateX wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:39 pmAs in “being ignorant” ? Already covered in 1) , 6) and 7)
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Personally, I think software sounds better (not on emulations, they're always imperfect, but I don't want any emulations, I'm not a dusty synths guy), and indeed I absolutely don't care if somebody thinks it's right or wrong, now I'm back to programming sounds on Rapid.
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I like noise free hardware and that usually happens to be digital nowadays. i.e it's software but.. I wouldn't compare a modelling amp to a real one - when you can afford to make so much noise there are other options.DJErmac wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:52 pmPersonally, I think software sounds better (not on emulations, they're always imperfect, but I don't want any emulations, I'm not a dusty synths guy), and indeed I absolutely don't care if somebody thinks it's right or wrong, now I'm back to programming sounds on Rapid.![]()
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Please note I was strictly talking about synthesizers here, as the discussion was mainly about it.stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:54 pmI like noise free hardware and that usually happens to be digital nowadays. i.e it's software but.. I wouldn't compare a modelling amp to a real one - when you can afford to make so much noise there are other options.DJErmac wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:52 pmPersonally, I think software sounds better (not on emulations, they're always imperfect, but I don't want any emulations, I'm not a dusty synths guy), and indeed I absolutely don't care if somebody thinks it's right or wrong, now I'm back to programming sounds on Rapid.![]()
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I mean When you think about it the miniMoog is just a Fruity 3OSC with mono mode enabled and routed Into a soundgoodizer.
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BONES has his account now apparently. Only people that agree categorically can be at all intelligent, all dissent is idiocy and/or ignorance.
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Similar restrictions apply. It's not the same thing, but I guess software synths are closer to the hardware because it's easier to divide the circuit into logical units.DJErmac wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:58 pm Please note I was strictly talking about synthesizers here, as the discussion was mainly about it.
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I think the lad is just being a troll to be honest, he’s doing a decent job. That being said that would explain why Bones has not been online today howeverjancivil wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:59 pmBONES has his account now apparently. Only people that agree categorically can be at all intelligent, all dissent is idiocy and/or ignorance.
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You are perceptive. Finally broke that idiot’s password. When I am done, his analogue preferences are but a banned account.jancivil wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:59 pmBONES has his account now apparently. Only people that agree categorically can be at all intelligent, all dissent is idiocy and/or ignorance.
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It's easier to compare a software compressor with a hardware compressor, or a software preamp with a hardware preamp (those may or may not sound better as hardware, I haven't had the chance to compare everything), than Dmitry Sches Thorn with a Korg Prophecy for instance.stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:01 pmSimilar restrictions apply. It's not the same thing, but I guess software synths are closer to the hardware because it's easier to divide the circuit into logical units.DJErmac wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:58 pm Please note I was strictly talking about synthesizers here, as the discussion was mainly about it.
I love my software synths and think they don't have any rivals in the hardware realm (well, I haven't met any yet). Even the almighty Timbre Wolf can't compete.
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That may be it from a users perspective. When you look inside you'll see that a synth is easier to treat as separate modules. i.e. this part is the waveform generator, this part is filter, this lfo modulates the filter and so on. For a guitar amp any division into modules is arbitrary. For a synth the hardest modelling art goes into the filter, and for a guitar amp that art (in spite of being applicable) doesn't scale to the whole circuit for efficiency reasons and you make an arbitrary decision somewhere and say this preamp does not interact with the tonestack or the speaker does not interact with the power amp, etc.
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