Why will software people not admit hardware sounds better?

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IncarnateX wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:39 pm
stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:31 pm (8) Perhaps they don't care.
As in “being ignorant” ? Already covered in 1) , 6) and 7)
No, as in "it's just a game".
~stratum~

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pekbro wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:40 pm From my limited experience, they don’t behave the same and therefore sound different. IMO hardware sounds better, even hardware that’s driven by software, which is largely the case nowdays. Despite all the cool math, models of the way electricity behaves can never truly be accurate because it’s impossible to account for every variable.

A reasonable facsimile is one thing, but that’s all they are. Like it or not.
These are the first sane words I have read in this thread apart from my own.

+1 Bro. Finally a sign of intelligent life at KVR.

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stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:40 pm
IncarnateX wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:39 pm
stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:31 pm (8) Perhaps they don't care.
As in “being ignorant” ? Already covered in 1) , 6) and 7)
No, as in "it's just a game".
Bowie disagrees, you lose:


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IncarnateX wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:47 pm
Bowie disagrees, you lose:
For him it wasn't.
~stratum~

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stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:31 pm (8) Perhaps they don't care.
Personally, I think software sounds better (not on emulations, they're always imperfect, but I don't want any emulations, I'm not a dusty synths guy), and indeed I absolutely don't care if somebody thinks it's right or wrong, now I'm back to programming sounds on Rapid. :shrug:

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DJErmac wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:52 pm
stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:31 pm (8) Perhaps they don't care.
Personally, I think software sounds better (not on emulations, they're always imperfect, but I don't want any emulations, I'm not a dusty synths guy), and indeed I absolutely don't care if somebody thinks it's right or wrong, now I'm back to programming sounds on Rapid. :shrug:
I like noise free hardware and that usually happens to be digital nowadays. i.e it's software but.. I wouldn't compare a modelling amp to a real one - when you can afford to make so much noise there are other options.:)
~stratum~

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stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:54 pm
DJErmac wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:52 pm
stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:31 pm (8) Perhaps they don't care.
Personally, I think software sounds better (not on emulations, they're always imperfect, but I don't want any emulations, I'm not a dusty synths guy), and indeed I absolutely don't care if somebody thinks it's right or wrong, now I'm back to programming sounds on Rapid. :shrug:
I like noise free hardware and that usually happens to be digital nowadays. i.e it's software but.. I wouldn't compare a modelling amp to a real one - when you can afford to make so much noise there are other options.:)
Please note I was strictly talking about synthesizers here, as the discussion was mainly about it.

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I mean When you think about it the miniMoog is just a Fruity 3OSC with mono mode enabled and routed Into a soundgoodizer.
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donkey tugger wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:30 pm Are you Theresa May?
BONES has his account now apparently. Only people that agree categorically can be at all intelligent, all dissent is idiocy and/or ignorance.

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DJErmac wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:58 pm Please note I was strictly talking about synthesizers here, as the discussion was mainly about it.
Similar restrictions apply. It's not the same thing, but I guess software synths are closer to the hardware because it's easier to divide the circuit into logical units.
~stratum~

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jancivil wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:59 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:30 pm Are you Theresa May?
BONES has his account now apparently. Only people that agree categorically can be at all intelligent, all dissent is idiocy and/or ignorance.
I think the lad is just being a troll to be honest, he’s doing a decent job. That being said that would explain why Bones has not been online today however :hihi:
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hehee

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jancivil wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:59 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:30 pm Are you Theresa May?
BONES has his account now apparently. Only people that agree categorically can be at all intelligent, all dissent is idiocy and/or ignorance.
You are perceptive. Finally broke that idiot’s password. When I am done, his analogue preferences are but a banned account.

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stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:01 pm
DJErmac wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:58 pm Please note I was strictly talking about synthesizers here, as the discussion was mainly about it.
Similar restrictions apply. It's not the same thing, but I guess software synths are closer to the hardware because it's easier to divide the circuit into logical units.
It's easier to compare a software compressor with a hardware compressor, or a software preamp with a hardware preamp (those may or may not sound better as hardware, I haven't had the chance to compare everything), than Dmitry Sches Thorn with a Korg Prophecy for instance.

I love my software synths and think they don't have any rivals in the hardware realm (well, I haven't met any yet). Even the almighty Timbre Wolf can't compete.

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That may be it from a users perspective. When you look inside you'll see that a synth is easier to treat as separate modules. i.e. this part is the waveform generator, this part is filter, this lfo modulates the filter and so on. For a guitar amp any division into modules is arbitrary. For a synth the hardest modelling art goes into the filter, and for a guitar amp that art (in spite of being applicable) doesn't scale to the whole circuit for efficiency reasons and you make an arbitrary decision somewhere and say this preamp does not interact with the tonestack or the speaker does not interact with the power amp, etc.
~stratum~

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