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Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:51 pm

If you want, you could add a bit more of a bass boost using it's built-in EQ.

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:54 pm

Have they ever had a paid update since Sylenth1 was made? How do they stay in business.

dionenoid · Post by **dionenoid** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:00 am

rob_lee wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:15 pm SYLENTH1 is a fab synth, always has been always will be.
It's all about how you use it, same as other synths people here (CHOOSE) to use

Exactly

And still supported and free updates even after all these years.

(oh btw : i have some of your soundsets, good stuff)

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:03 am

chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:43 pm I like to compare Sylenth1 to Spire, and, Spire definitely has more bottom end, and it also sounds more fat and creamy for bass sounds. I'd agree that Sylenth1 is pretty nice for most sounds, but lacks a bit in the bass department. If it works for you, great.

I have to disagree. I've always felt that Spire sounded very thin. I used to think Sylenth wasn't the best choice for bass, but never thought it sounded thin.

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:48 am

rob_lee wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:15 pm
chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:45 pm TBH, i can't hear a difference
Thousands of tracks out there made with SYLENTH1 do you think anyone in the club at 4am bouncing about off their heads hears a difference OR even give a f**k? (Me thinks NOT) Lol SYLENTH1 is a fab synth, always has been always will be.
It's all about how you use it, same as other synths people here (CHOOSE) to use

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:29 am

v1o wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:54 pm Have they ever had a paid update since Sylenth1 was made? How do they stay in business.

Annual threads like these.

samsam · Post by **samsam** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:36 am

Sylenth and Omni updates in the same week. Nice!

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:21 am

Improved oscillator sound quality (improved high frequency content, reduced aliasing).

I am very sceptical about this part. This update will alter the sound of all existing presets and there is no coming back. Don't fix what is not broken!

Trancit · Post by **Trancit** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:51 am

Examigan wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:51 pm If you want, you could add a bit more of a bass boost using it's built-in EQ.

djanthonyw wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:03 am
chk071 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:43 pm I like to compare Sylenth1 to Spire, and, Spire definitely has more bottom end, and it also sounds more fat and creamy for bass sounds. I'd agree that Sylenth1 is pretty nice for most sounds, but lacks a bit in the bass department. If it works for you, great.
I have to disagree. I've always felt that Spire sounded very thin. I used to think Sylenth wasn't the best choice for bass, but never thought it sounded thin.

So where are we now...

I really would call this a myth...
And tbh... nothing is easier than putting a bit EQ on the sound to reach every bottom end you like...
I don´t know neither, how a fat and creamy bass sounds ... and I guess we should all put this into the category "personal taste and impressions" and not into "general facts"

Perhaps there are some newbies reading this thread and believe you at the very end...

I am pretty sure there is absolutely no standard synth out there which isn´t able to reach the same bottom end as any other after the wished processing...

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:15 am

v1o wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:54 pm Have they ever had a paid update since Sylenth1 was made? How do they stay in business.

I don't think there were any paid updates! I have it for more than a year and there were several updates for free. I think they are making profit by selling new licenses! So, why not staying in business?!

I still like Sylenth1 but I always forget to load it

This time I'm going to use it in one of the recent projects I'm planning to finish (I hope!). I think there is an improvement in the sound quality. I can't prove anything, it is just a feeling that the sound seems more detailed? Anyway, I trust the developer like I trust Urs or Richard. Maybe it is not a day and night from the previous version, but one thing I'm sure of and that it sounds good to me

I didn't like the new skin, but IMO the default is the best and I always return to it because it has very clear font and comfortable colours. So, this GUI update is not for me (not I'm looking for an update anyway!).

I like the new presets though and I'm already modifying one to use it. This synth is a keeper

adamszabo · Post by **adamszabo** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:43 am

DJ Warmonger wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:21 am
Improved oscillator sound quality (improved high frequency content, reduced aliasing).
I am very sceptical about this part. This update will alter the sound of all existing presets and there is no coming back. Don't fix what is not broken!

I compared it with the old Sylenth1 and the improvement is that now the oscillators dont have the high frequency falloff like before. In the old one, it sounded like the oscs were wavetables, where every few keys their top frequency would end at 17khz or so. Now the oscs have all their frequency across the keyboard. Its a small detail that doesnt affect the overall sound that much.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:18 am

Yeah, same thing as described here, i guess: viewtopic.php?p=5980895#p5980895

Now, about those oscillators…

Both Hive and Sylenth use the IMHO fastest possible way to render static waveforms. Its called mipmapping, or multisampled waveform cycles which are switched based on pitch. Depending on which key you press you get either the full spectrum, or a spectrum up to, say, 17kHz or something in-between. Sylenth has 2 zones per octave, Hive currently has 3. Therefore they switch at different keys, so that conparing waveforms at the same key yields results either in favour of one or the other. A fair comparison would use not just one pitch, but several.

ramseysounds · Post by **ramseysounds** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:28 am

wagtunes wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:43 pm I own over 100 VST synths. I don't own Sylenth1.

That should tell you something.

That you have bad taste?

Sylenth off the bat produces some great instantly usable sounds out there. Highly used by pro's. That tells me more.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:34 am

ramseysounds wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:28 am
wagtunes wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:43 pm I own over 100 VST synths. I don't own Sylenth1.

That should tell you something.
That you have bad taste?
Sylenth off the bat produces some great instantly usable sounds out there. Highly used by pro's. That tells me more.

I have bad taste?

Hmm, so all the synths I own are crap. Is that what you're saying?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:35 am

Not all. But some.

Sylenth1 in 2019