BABYLON Synthesizer is in development
- KVRAF
- 19852 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Layzer....chill out.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRAF
- 24434 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
He can't chill out because he can't admit to himself there's merit in higher CPU usage of newer synths.
Some people are hopeless.
- Banned
- 10729 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
i dont use uhe stuff either so...Teksonik wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:53 pm Well then Google is your friend......![]()
Imagine if Hartmann and Heckmann teamed up to make a synth. Just thinking about the monster that would be unleashed from that collaboration gives me Priapism.![]()
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- KVRist
- 106 posts since 13 May, 2018
I'd rather say you then have 2 egos to satisfyTeksonik wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:53 pm Imagine if Hartmann and Heckmann teamed up to make a synth.
- KVRAF
- 19852 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
I'm sorry to hear that. You're missing out on some great synths.
But if you're a fan of synths in general a Hartmann/Heckmann collaboration would be nothing but a good thing.
Probably never going to happen but I stand by the statement that such a collaboration would almost certainly yield a synth well worth owning.......
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- Banned
- 10729 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
thats the thing, im not missing anything. ive been thru the lot and slimmed it down to what i need and prefer.
im not really into niche/gimmicky stuff, or stuff that boasts zdf/audio rate this and that in software. I also dont buy stuff cos its the next big thing or most popular. its a tool, and has a job to do.
As long as my host keeps going for another 10 years im good (no reason why it shouldn't)
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
If we are using the word "normal", well than your computer is not normal in the statistical sense of the word. It's outdated and at some point you have to keep up ... or shut up.
What you are suggesting is that everybody mows their lawn with this, just because YOU like it.

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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
Well, I guess we should consider ourselves blessed that Hartmann is on the team for a FREE synth where Amazona is basically asking "what kind of synth do you want?" and we'll make it for you...
- KVRAF
- 19852 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Then you'll have no reason to read let alone post in threads about new synths in developement.AnX wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:19 pm thats the thing, im not missing anything. ive been thru the lot and slimmed it down to what i need and prefer.
Synths aren't just "tools" they are musical instruments to be played and enjoyed. To those who can't grasp that fact I feel nothing but pity.........
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- Banned
- 10729 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
some are, others not so much, hence why i slimmed down my selection to the ones that work for me (not ones im told i should use)Teksonik wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:45 pm
Synths aren't just "tools" they are musical instruments to be played and enjoyed.
... and i'll post and read what i like where i like.
- KVRAF
- 19852 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Who told you to use anything ?
I use the ones I like and enjoy. I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy Babylon when it's released because I'm always looking to expand or enhance the range of sounds I can make. Whether it will bring anything new or better is yet to be seen but my mind and my VSTi folder are always open to new things.
But being static and limiting yourself to the same sounds over and over is certainly a valid way of working as well. Whatever floats your boat just don't ever think your boat is better than anyone else's.
And certainly you're free to post anywhere you like but saying you don't need new synths and then reading and posting in a thread about a new synth seems counterproductive but hey like I said whatever floats your boat.....
I use the ones I like and enjoy. I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy Babylon when it's released because I'm always looking to expand or enhance the range of sounds I can make. Whether it will bring anything new or better is yet to be seen but my mind and my VSTi folder are always open to new things.
But being static and limiting yourself to the same sounds over and over is certainly a valid way of working as well. Whatever floats your boat just don't ever think your boat is better than anyone else's.
And certainly you're free to post anywhere you like but saying you don't need new synths and then reading and posting in a thread about a new synth seems counterproductive but hey like I said whatever floats your boat.....
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- Banned
- 10729 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
i didnt say i would never use anything else, hence why i still demo new stuff.
Currently, nothing else in the market floats my boat except the stuff i currently use
and i also didnt say anything was better than anything else... maybe read what i say before putting words into my mouth
Currently, nothing else in the market floats my boat except the stuff i currently use
and i also didnt say anything was better than anything else... maybe read what i say before putting words into my mouth
- addled muppet weed
- 111299 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
for boat floating, i suggest water.
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12494 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
No he's right. There's definitely no audible difference between what Synth1 can do and RePro can for example. All that extra CPU just means Urs is just bad at coding. All those other really great sounding, but high CPU instruments and effects, that's just bad coding too. I trust Layzer. He knows better.EvilDragon wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:43 pm He can't chill out because he can't admit to himself there's merit in higher CPU usage of newer synths.Some people are hopeless.
/s
Funny how much in the audio world comes across as religous zealotry, whether it's Layzer with his "only low CPU freeware is any good" mindset, or the folks on the other end of the spectrum who spend 10k on speaker wire because it "sounds better" despite all evidence to the contrary. Maybe it happens in all fields to some degree (you certainly see it in the US when it comes to things like climate science), but there's just so much religion in audio, where for some people, it's about their beliefs versus any verifiable fact. So let Layzer beleive what he wants. His beliefs are his beliefs. You're probably never going to convince him to change them. I bet there's certain things I believe to be true that someone who knows better considers equally nonsensical.
Anyway, I look forward to seeing what comes out of this project. Tyrell has gotten quite a bit of love from me over the years and is still one of the top freeware synths. Will be interesting to see a different Amazona product from another talented development team.
- KVRAF
- 24434 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Yeah I guess it's ok. It's ok to be wrong.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:24 pmSo let Layzer beleive what he wants. His beliefs are his beliefs.
