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Shalotta · Post by **Shalotta** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:54 am

Michael`s newsletter is woolly, wrapped in a flowery language ...

What I`m able to comprehend so far,
the entire EA business was too much for a one man show
and he wants to focus on new releases, iZotope (with broader customer base) does the rest.
Sounds like a fusion to me with some ding dong who knows contract.

I`m not a Meester in reading out flowery language, feel free to correct me.

The phoenix>nimbus story affronted me as well to take a more distanced attitude to EA,
think I`ll stay there a bit longer and watch what happens along with iZoptope.

kgdrum · Post by **kgdrum** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:33 am

Omkar wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:54 am

The phoenix>nimbus story affronted me as well to take a more distanced attitude to EA,
think I`ll stay there a bit longer and watch what happens along with iZoptope.

+1
The R2 —> R4 transition w/ no actual upgrade path left me a bit dismayed with Exponential.

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:13 am

Omkar wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:54 am Michael`s newsletter is woolly, wrapped in a flowery language ...

What I`m able to comprehend so far,
the entire EA business was too much for a one man show
and he wants to focus on new releases, iZotope (with broader customer base) does the rest.
Sounds like a fusion to me with some ding dong who knows contract.

I`m not a Meester in reading out flowery language, feel free to correct me.

The phoenix>nimbus story affronted me as well to take a more distanced attitude to EA,
think I`ll stay there a bit longer and watch what happens along with iZoptope.

He sold his entire product line and is now at Izotope as a research fellow. Sounds like semi-retirement to me.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:16 am

v1o wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:13 am He sold his entire product line and is now at Izotope as a research fellow.

And where exactly is that written?

Seriously, i know that speculations are very modern and hip these days, but, i'd really wait for something substantial and real. So far, all we know is that he joined iZotope, and his products are still up, even remaining under the same brand name. Which should really tell you that he didn't just "sell his entire product line, and joins as a research fellow".

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:18 am

A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT with a tiny font.

I’ve had some great partners who have helped me grow. There isn’t enough space here to thank all of the new friends I’ve made along the way.

What-ever.

Deep Purple · Post by **Deep Purple** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:31 pm

Can someone clarify for me - earlier in the thread I understood that Nimbus is the successor to PhoenixVerb, and that it has all the presets of PhoenixVerb - is there any point in owning PhoenixVerb AND Nimbus?

They're both part of the Stereo Reverb Bundle, so not sure if the bundle is 4 unique reverbs, or 3 unique reverbs and the predecessor to one of them.

mcbpete · Post by **mcbpete** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:54 pm

If you have Nimbus, no you don't need PhoenixVerb:

Does NIMBUS sound like PhoenixVerb, just with more parameters?
Yes. It sounds exactly like PhoenixVerb, but only if you haven't used any of the new parameters. All of the PhoenixVerb presets have been imported into NIMBUS.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:40 pm

mcbpete wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:54 pm If you have Nimbus, no you don't need PhoenixVerb:

Does NIMBUS sound like PhoenixVerb, just with more parameters?
Yes. It sounds exactly like PhoenixVerb, but only if you haven't used any of the new parameters. All of the PhoenixVerb presets have been imported into NIMBUS.

Which is why it needed a decent upgrade path from Phoenixverb, and still does (I would have liked to get Nimbus but refuse to pay the cost of Phoenixverb + more money again - especially since they also vastly deprecated the resale value of Phoenixverb).

If I could buy the bundle at a reasonable price I still would just to get it.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:45 pm

My one positive is they may finally change Michael's I will admit practical but fugly Gui's.

rsp

Deep Purple · Post by **Deep Purple** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:40 pm

Yes, the GUI is not the most attractive to look at, but the reverbs sound really good

Spencer Maddox · Post by **Spencer Maddox** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:44 pm

I have not caught up with this thread but at least he didin't do a Camel...Right?

Everyone will still be able to use his stuff I mean, just for a different company...
If anything he will have more resources to work with and make his products better.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:47 pm

Yeah. I would assume that this is 99% about marketing and advertising.

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:03 pm

chk071 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:16 am
v1o wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:13 am He sold his entire product line and is now at Izotope as a research fellow.
And where exactly is that written?

Seriously, i know that speculations are very modern and hip these days, but, i'd really wait for something substantial and real. So far, all we know is that he joined iZotope, and his products are still up, even remaining under the same brand name. Which should really tell you that he didn't just "sell his entire product line, and joins as a research fellow".

It says so in the Izotope email that went out to customers:

“Exponential Audio founder and renowned reverb expert Michael Carnes is joining the iZotope team as a Research Fellow to continue innovating new possibilities for the future of reverb.”

Edit:
next bit confirming they bought the products :
“We are excited to announce that we've acquired the Exponential Audio product line”

Straight2Vinyl · Post by **Straight2Vinyl** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:10 pm

It'll be interesting to see how much of the reverb effects that everyone here seems to like from EA, are implemented across the various Izotope apps. I actually think Iris 2 has some great effects, which I believe come from their various products, so I suspect the reverbs will be included in their next synths. Admittedly I haven't used Iris as much as I meant to as it often does more than I really need and I use the sampler in Renoise more lately for the sample commands.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:26 pm

v1o wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:03 pm
chk071 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:16 am
v1o wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:13 am He sold his entire product line and is now at Izotope as a research fellow.
And where exactly is that written?

Seriously, i know that speculations are very modern and hip these days, but, i'd really wait for something substantial and real. So far, all we know is that he joined iZotope, and his products are still up, even remaining under the same brand name. Which should really tell you that he didn't just "sell his entire product line, and joins as a research fellow".
It says so in the Izotope email that went out to customers:

“Exponential Audio founder and renowned reverb expert Michael Carnes is joining the iZotope team as a Research Fellow to continue innovating new possibilities for the future of reverb.”

Edit:
next bit confirming they bought the products :
“We are excited to announce that we've acquired the Exponential Audio product line”

Aah... apologies then. I didn't read that.

Well, that's a mighty good move then from iZotope.

iZotope bought Exponential Audio