SampleTank 4 on the way

[zzz00m]

This is exactly what I am seeing (but using ST3 to get to the ST3 content since I don't have ST4 configured to point to ST3 content).

In [KS] 8 Violas Multi, I see 16 articulations (with 16 keyswitches). Not a single one of these is looped. The articulation names start with "Sustain mf, Sustain pp, Sustain p" and so on.

In [KS] 5 Cellos Multi, I see 25 articulations. Not a single one of these is looped. The articulation names start with "Sustain A, Sustain B" and so on.

The KS presets from Miro 2 CE do seem to lack looping on the sustain articulations. But this is not a new issue with SampleTank 4.

The KS presets in ST3 do seem to loop the sustain articulations by default.

However in the new ST4 string presets, you will need to look for presets with a suffix of "lp", such as "Cellos Sustain lp". No keyswitches for them, though.

If you filter the ST4 library for "lp", you can see all the presets that are designated as looped.

I found a related thread regarding looped articulations over at the IK forum. It seems to imply that it's a limitation of the Miro CE library. The full version contains more articulations.
Miroslav- Solo Strings - Note Sustain
https://cgi.ikmultimedia.com/ikforum/vi ... 12&t=13190

[zzz00m]

Has anyone got the grid unlocked in ST4? Mine is locked, but authorised fine, and located in the correct location. Going in circles with IK support. Interested if your grid in ST4 is showing a locked icon or not?

All good here, didn't have to do anything special for that one. It unlocked at the same time as everything else in my ST3 folder.

[popskull]

Thanks , no good for me , I’ve tried everything , reinstalling , reauthorising .... . I’ll give up on it

[bill45]

I have Philharmonic 2. Are there different Patches for the ST4 and CE content?

[zzz00m]

I have Philharmonic 2. Are there different Patches for the ST4 and CE content?

Philharmonic is not included with ST4, but is supported if you have it.

[edit: correction] It is included in ST4 MAX, but I didn't notice it was there as a separate download. I assume that it's the same content as the original Miro Philharmonic 2 CE, just as the ST3 content in ST4 MAX is the original ST3 MAX. If you already have it, no need to download again and re-install it.

[Burillo]

Philharmonic 2 CE is included in the Max version.

[zzz00m]

Philharmonic 2 CE is included in the Max version.

I stand corrected, as I probably didn't notice that in my ST4 MAX downloads, as I skipped anything in the list past the ST4 content.

I already had Miro Philharmonic 2 CE installed in my pre-existing ST3 content. I would imagine that they are identical with the same presets, same library, in both copies.

[dandezebra]

Wait a minute... With the USB Max version installed, shouldn't I also have the Cathedral 1 - 5 patches?

Or are we talking a different version?

[zzz00m]

Wait a minute... With the USB Max version installed, shouldn't I also have the Cathedral 1 - 5 patches?

Or are we talking a different version?

Cathedral 1-5 are part of the Philharmonic 2 CE library.

They will only appear in ST4 if you have installed Philharmonic 2 CE, AND added that content path to ST4. That is not part of the base ST4 MAX library installers, but are available separately in your ST4 MAX downloads list as "Miroslav Philharmonic 2 CE". There are three parts to download and install.

[MikeCallon]

Any news on the latest patch? Wasn't 4.0.4 supposed to be released this week?

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Any news on the latest patch? Wasn't 4.0.4 supposed to be released this week?

The devs decided that there was another important optimization/fix into 4.0.4 and it will be arriving early next week. Thanks!

[dmbaer]

However in the new ST4 string presets, you will need to look for presets with a suffix of "lp", such as "Cellos Sustain lp". No keyswitches for them, though.

I found a related thread regarding looped articulations over at the IK forum. It seems to imply that it's a limitation of the Miro CE library. The full version contains more articulations.
Miroslav- Solo Strings - Note Sustain
https://cgi.ikmultimedia.com/ikforum/vi ... 12&t=13190

I don't have access to any of the ST4 sounds - they are occupying disk space but ST4 cannot see them on my system ... but that's another story.

I did look at the pdf listing all the ST4 Max content. Geeze, there sure is a boatload of it. I did notice that there is lots of new strings content and that many of the articulations are looped. That's all to the good. But I also noticed there are no keyswitched instruments. I can't for the life of me see how one can take advantage of all those articulations if there is no keyswitching defined (and we users cannot put together instruments that do have it).

I am baffled as to the thinking on this.

[dmbaer]

Cath. Org. 4 and 5 sound very similar, but I can hear a slight difference in the volume. Don't see any obvious differences in the edit window, except for the element name.

Bass pedals are also very, very low, but not silent. Playing around in the edit window, I can bring them up a bit, but cannot normalize them.

Well, if Cath. Org. 4 and 5 are different but sound *almost* identical, that just makes no sense. We are talking about a pipe organ, for heaven sakes. Those have an extensive palette of sounds, so why not put some variety in place. I think this merits some attention from IKM as the very quiet Bass Pedals preset certainly does as well.

This is not to say I would ever go to ST for pipe organ sounds - I've got several superb Kontakt libraries that do pipe organ and only pipe organ. But I am quite a fan of this mighty instrument and feel like it should be done right even for those who only need a little pipe organ action from ST for a soundtrack or the like.

[bill45]

I had Philharmonic 2 before purchasing ST 4 max.
Are the instruments/articulations in the sampletank 4/ Philharmonic 2 content
any different from The latest update of Philharmonic 2?

[Burillo]

no, they're literally including MPCE2 in ST4 MAX, alongside the entire ST3 sound library.