One Synth Challenge #121: Any One Synth (Rellik Wins!)
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- KVRist
- 235 posts since 13 Dec, 2016 from Tucson, AZ, USA
Everyone has their own opinion on what they consider good technique.
We all try to attain a sound that we want to hear and that includes musically style, tonal balance, dynamics, ...
I can't critique, or give advice on a piece based on what I would like to hear, but instead try and keep an open mind and assume that the creator made their choice based on their personal preference.
Reviews/advice should very much be taken with a grain of salt and not be taken literally.
We all try to attain a sound that we want to hear and that includes musically style, tonal balance, dynamics, ...
I can't critique, or give advice on a piece based on what I would like to hear, but instead try and keep an open mind and assume that the creator made their choice based on their personal preference.
Reviews/advice should very much be taken with a grain of salt and not be taken literally.
Last edited by mclstr on Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- KVRian
- 575 posts since 27 Oct, 2015
To your credit, you're a very entertaining a**hole!
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- KVRian
- 1278 posts since 9 Jan, 2013 from morf
Cough, cough,Harry_HH wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:43 am Voted.
This time, for me, very distinctive top 4:
Full Bucket: best house jam piece
OnTrackP: most versatile, impressive set of sounds - absolutely great piece of work!
Loris: most evocative, symphonic piece
DrBob: funniest, great playing, skillful mix of trad/modern
All of the above, good balance in mastering.
(unfortunately, can´t say quite many of the other participants, too loud/unbalanced mixes/masterings take points down in my evaluation).
Also one of them used non synth thingies
I just thought I'd point it out, however now I feel like a tell tale was mentioned when submitted.
All good with me though, my voting is based on my own criteria
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- KVRian
- 575 posts since 27 Oct, 2015
Well, I have to admit that I detect an ominous undertone here, so that can't be good. But juxtaposed with your profile pic, I totally read that comment with Harry Callahan's voice in my head - so I'm afraid it was.
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- KVRAF
- 4881 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
Hmm...this seems to be bloody serious for some people. (What comes to the claimed rule violations, those reclamations should be directed in formal way to the organizer - or otherwise shut up).
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- KVRian
- 1278 posts since 9 Jan, 2013 from morf
Or what?
Its in the submission detailz....
Chillout doooode, Crumb's, some people just make my day
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- KVRAF
- 2166 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
"using banned stuff" … in the oft quoted famous words "It wasn't me!" …
Also, as you say stats are great as a guide. I did use all the tools available to me to analyse as I went on. My "30's'" styled track sort of reflects the sound you would have got from a small band (not a full big band) playing in a small dancehall or "tea room" dance.
In those days no-one really cared too much about technical streaming or broadcast standards! Heck, a full orchestra would, and still does in many cases, break all the health and safety audio rules! The bands I worked with and listened to in the 70-80-90's were all very loud (ears ringing for many hours afterwards! Yes, I know VERY BAD). Then we had the various club eras with their loud bangin' music, which again, would often hit the red light limiters in the venues! Easily fixed by disabling the device!
Yes, I know I *should* adhere to some of the "standards" for loudness and compression, but, I did that and then pushed it away from the -14LUFS to get the sounds/dynamics I wanted for the track. I did not see that ONE clipped sample in my audio view - probably an MP3 coding artefact (known to do this!).
But, maybe I did push it too far and lost the "air"! Weirdly, when the "crash" hits, the energy in the high freqs goes bananas, but you don't really hear that, but you do see it and think … whoa, that's gotta be bad, from an analysis point of view!
Anyway, I just hope your enjoyment of the track was not compromised by odd loudness contours.
I still enjoyed making it, and that's what counts for me.
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Also, as you say stats are great as a guide. I did use all the tools available to me to analyse as I went on. My "30's'" styled track sort of reflects the sound you would have got from a small band (not a full big band) playing in a small dancehall or "tea room" dance.
In those days no-one really cared too much about technical streaming or broadcast standards! Heck, a full orchestra would, and still does in many cases, break all the health and safety audio rules! The bands I worked with and listened to in the 70-80-90's were all very loud (ears ringing for many hours afterwards! Yes, I know VERY BAD). Then we had the various club eras with their loud bangin' music, which again, would often hit the red light limiters in the venues! Easily fixed by disabling the device!
Yes, I know I *should* adhere to some of the "standards" for loudness and compression, but, I did that and then pushed it away from the -14LUFS to get the sounds/dynamics I wanted for the track. I did not see that ONE clipped sample in my audio view - probably an MP3 coding artefact (known to do this!).
But, maybe I did push it too far and lost the "air"! Weirdly, when the "crash" hits, the energy in the high freqs goes bananas, but you don't really hear that, but you do see it and think … whoa, that's gotta be bad, from an analysis point of view!
Anyway, I just hope your enjoyment of the track was not compromised by odd loudness contours.
I still enjoyed making it, and that's what counts for me.
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- KVRian
- 1278 posts since 9 Jan, 2013 from morf
I shud a kept me keyboard shut.doctorbob wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:21 pm "using banned stuff" … in the oft quoted famous words "It wasn't me!" …
Also, as you say stats are great as a guide. I did use all the tools available to me to analyse as I went on. My "30's'" styled track sort of reflects the sound you would have got from a small band (not a full big band) playing in a small dancehall or "tea room" dance.
In those days no-one really cared too much about technical streaming or broadcast standards! Heck, a full orchestra would, and still does in many cases, break all the health and safety audio rules! The bands I worked with and listened to in the 70-80-90's were all very loud (ears ringing for many hours afterwards! Yes, I know VERY BAD). Then we had the various club eras with their loud bangin' music, which again, would often hit the red light limiters in the venues! Easily fixed by disabling the device!
Yes, I know I *should* adhere to some of the "standards" for loudness and compression, but, I did that and then pushed it away from the -14LUFS to get the sounds/dynamics I wanted for the track. I did not see that ONE clipped sample in my audio view - probably an MP3 coding artefact (known to do this!).
But, maybe I did push it too far and lost the "air"! Weirdly, when the "crash" hits, the energy in the high freqs goes bananas, but you don't really hear that, but you do see it and think … whoa, that's gotta be bad, from an analysis point of view!
Anyway, I just hope your enjoyment of the track was not compromised by odd loudness contours.
I still enjoyed making it, and that's what counts for me.
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As an aside, Manalyser is useful, as is Youleans free Lufs.
Sometimes you can get a bit sidetracked by stats and such like without considering the track itself.
So apology to all who may feel slighted by my posts, as I writ its all in the submission details, I look at these as it's a good way to find cool freeware, like Boz BOD or trojakew's super cool amplio...
So, I'll sidle of to my quiet place and leave everyone in peace.
Once again apology, signing off
Man is least himself when he talks in the first person. Give him a mask, and he'll show you his true face
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- KVRian
- 1256 posts since 22 Aug, 2003
This may confirm a theory I had actually - this was one of several tracks of yours where I’ve experienced a distracting/piercing amount of high frequencies in the cymbals, and I wondered whether your high frequency hearing (or monitoring) may be somewhat reduced? No offense intended, and I can sympathize that it must be frustrating if that’s the case - I don’t hold it against your tracks by any means - and I could easily be mistaken. But in this case, I think your visual analysis is showing you something relevant.
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- KVRAF
- 2166 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
Yeah, you're probably right. My final monitoring device is now 70 years old and probably not working in the higher frequencies anymore!
I'll pay more attention to the freq analysis and see if it makes a difference!
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I'll pay more attention to the freq analysis and see if it makes a difference!
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- KVRAF
- 4881 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
This guy seems to be so out with his comments.
I gave my voting, after that some other people commented my voting. Anyone who reads these pages can see, that its you and someone, who are not that cool.
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- KVRian
- 1278 posts since 9 Jan, 2013 from morf
All I could see was you said peoples tracks were badly mixed/mastered with points deduction from yourself and someone pointed out the stats and then I writ someone had used non synth thingies, which were included in suubmission details and then you said i shud report it or shut up.
That's all....
Oh yes, I have voted, GLTA
P.S I know I'm not cool, I'm a low ranking contributor to the challenge, that's why I tend to stay stum...
Man is least himself when he talks in the first person. Give him a mask, and he'll show you his true face
- KVRist
- 377 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Slovakia
Actually you did good job with your track. I liked and give you 5points. What you achieved is quite great considering loudness. Pushing it so high and not intrudocing "destructive" distortion on audio is hard especially with type of instruments and music style you made.
I'm going compare your uploaded mp3 with streaming version from soundcloud if there are any differencies. Your track is such a good specimen.
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- KVRAF
- 2166 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
@Trojak, WAV file available here … https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1nze9t6mf6ni ... y.wav?dl=0
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PS thanks for the confidence vote (and boost!).
Spectra with crash and without crash!
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PS thanks for the confidence vote (and boost!).
Spectra with crash and without crash!