Idea for a DSI Evolver Emulation
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- KVRian
- 1198 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
Just trying to gauge feedback to ask if anyone would like to see a DSI Evolver plugin emulation. U-He did such a fantastic job with Repro, I think the Evolver being discontinued now, could be a fantastic plugin idea. There are no Evolver emulations, out there, and it is a pretty sought after sound. 2 digital wavetable oscillators, two analog, curtis filters, and that wicked modulation matrix with the step sequencer being able to modulate anything is pretty awesome.
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- KVRAF
- 3362 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota
Yeah there is something magical about the evolver. However, I’d like a Sunsyn even more.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1198 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
I mean, its easy to argue that Hive can do many of the same things, but for me its the architecture of the Evolver that make it so good. Just take the Repro, redesign the GUI, add two wavetable OSC with VS wavetables, create a separate modulation matrix page, and add 4, 16 step sequencers in the sequencer page, modify the effect section, Done
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- KVRAF
- 5386 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
PolyEvolver emulation is a great idea.
FYI, Soundtower make app, plugin and iPad editors for the Evolver, and app for PolyEvolver, which have a nice GUI ( I use it ).
So who has the chops and time to do it?
FYI, Soundtower make app, plugin and iPad editors for the Evolver, and app for PolyEvolver, which have a nice GUI ( I use it ).
So who has the chops and time to do it?
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- KVRAF
- 24447 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Too bad Evolver's filters were quite meh. Also going from analog to digital and then back to analog before filters did deteriorate the quality of the signal path on them...
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1198 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
Just an idea, some obviously will argue against it because they may have not preferred the Evolver. I however, found its strength with the modulation matrix and sequencers. I thought the BBD was good, as well as the output hack. I had an Evolver for years before selling it to fund something else, and I really thought the filters were basic, nothing outrageous, but thats why software emulations are great because you can add filters, and improve on areas that were lacking with the hardware.
As far as discontinuing something, I am pretty sure it was based on new development, resources for new products rather than lack of sales, or poor development on the Evolvers part. Many think the Evolver series are fantastic, and try finding a used Mono Evolver Keyboard in the wild, not many out there. I think I found one or two on reverb
As far as discontinuing something, I am pretty sure it was based on new development, resources for new products rather than lack of sales, or poor development on the Evolvers part. Many think the Evolver series are fantastic, and try finding a used Mono Evolver Keyboard in the wild, not many out there. I think I found one or two on reverb
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- KVRAF
- 26976 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
If you thought its strength was with the modulation and sequencers, then there are already plenty of software synths that have incredible capability that way. Zebra for one... Surely anything the Evolver could do Zebra can.vertibration wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:23 pm Just an idea, some obviously will argue against it because they may have not preferred the Evolver. I however, found its strength with the modulation matrix and sequencers.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1198 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
The Evolver and Zebra have their differences. For one, the Evolver has 16-step 4-parameter analog-style sequencer (with each patch having its own sequence), not to mention they can all modulate any parameter.
I dont have Zebra, I have Repro, and Hive, but what I read in the Zebra Manual looks to me as if it is not as robust a sequencer as an Evolver. I could be mistaken, maybe someone can enlighten me on the Zebra sequencer and if it can have multiple sequences going on at the same time, controlling different parameters at the same time
I dont have Zebra, I have Repro, and Hive, but what I read in the Zebra Manual looks to me as if it is not as robust a sequencer as an Evolver. I could be mistaken, maybe someone can enlighten me on the Zebra sequencer and if it can have multiple sequences going on at the same time, controlling different parameters at the same time
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- KVRAF
- 26976 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
The Zebra Arp/Seq includes 2 modulator lanes. The 4 Mod Mappers also work as separate parameter sequencers with independent timing and number of steps... they work quite well alongside the regular arp/sequencer.vertibration wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:36 pm The Evolver and Zebra have their differences. For one, the Evolver has 16-step 4-parameter analog-style sequencer (with each patch having its own sequence), not to mention they can all modulate any parameter.
I dont have Zebra, I have Repro, and Hive, but what I read in the Zebra Manual looks to me as if it is not as robust a sequencer as an Evolver. I could be mistaken, maybe someone can enlighten me on the Zebra sequencer and if it can have multiple sequences going on at the same time, controlling different parameters at the same time
And of course the 4 MSEG's can do complex parameter modulation. The LFO's also have a user mode where you can draw stepped sequences for modulating parameters.
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- KVRAF
- 2623 posts since 20 Oct, 2014
Radias, Radias! Sounds kind of Italian... 
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- KVRAF
- 13133 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
I built some patches in Zebrify to mimic my Evolver desktop. I got more use from my Evolver as an effect anyway.
On the Evolver, the delays at the end of the chain could be fed back to the filter's input.
The envelope follower could be used to trigger the sequencer, so that each time the input crossed a threshold, the sequence would progress one step.
The Evolver's filter really came alive with some FM and panning. It sound great on bass guitar when modulated by the envelope follower.
With that said, pretty much every one of the Evolver's tricks can be done better with other tools, at this point. But it's tough to find all of those tricks in one box. It was a lot of fun to play with.
On the Evolver, the delays at the end of the chain could be fed back to the filter's input.
The envelope follower could be used to trigger the sequencer, so that each time the input crossed a threshold, the sequence would progress one step.
The Evolver's filter really came alive with some FM and panning. It sound great on bass guitar when modulated by the envelope follower.
With that said, pretty much every one of the Evolver's tricks can be done better with other tools, at this point. But it's tough to find all of those tricks in one box. It was a lot of fun to play with.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1198 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
The closest VST all in one for me has been Zone. Their wavetable section needs work, but the routing is the best out there for sequencing similar to an evolver. I just think U-He has the sound quality to really pull an Evolver emulation off really well, and the UI would look clean too
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- KVRAF
- 26976 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
There is just no reason to do it... you can do basically anything with existing synths as an Evolver... IMO, it would be a waste of development time.vertibration wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:50 pm The closest VST all in one for me has been Zone. Their wavetable section needs work, but the routing is the best out there for sequencing similar to an evolver. I just think U-He has the sound quality to really pull an Evolver emulation off really well, and the UI would look clean too