Matching vocals to stock vocals in MAutoDynamicEQ (FR?)

[SparkySpark]

Hi,

We have been discussing the auto-matching feature of MADEQ in another thread. One thing we couldn't figure out is whether or not one can take a vocal and match it to a "stock vocal" pattern, kind of a Nectar approach.

If not, here's an FR that I think would be helpful for many, at least for hobby musicians who don't have perfect equipment for EQing.

I'm thinking that since there is an EQ-matching function, there could be some presets already defined and based on typical singers: male R'n'B high-pitched singer, Springsteen-rock-male, Bjork-female, etc. After all, finding passages of where those or similar singers sing a line or two a cappella wouldn't be that difficult. ...so we would eventually have a library to choose from, like with IR responses. In this case the technology is already in place, so it's just a matter of assembling the presets.

Or am I oversimplifying things?

[steve2KVR]

...mmmmmmm....I've never encountered one, "stock vocal"...and hope I never do, actually...as humans we are critically attuned to the smallest of nuances/details of human vocalization. I generally end up spending the majority of "mix time" on the vocals. There are a ton of UT.vids on all the secrets/tricks/systems that have been used in the past, so give'em a try and let us know what you find out...hth.../s~

[SparkySpark]

...mmmmmmm....I've never encountered one, "stock vocal"...and hope I never do, actually...as humans we are critically attuned to the smallest of nuances/details of human vocalization. I generally end up spending the majority of "mix time" on the vocals. There are a ton of UT.vids on all the secrets/tricks/systems that have been used in the past, so give'em a try and let us know what you find out...hth.../s~

Thanks Steve. I hear what you are saying but in Nectar, one would choose genre, aggressiveness and so on, and then the track assistant would analyze the audio track and make EQ decisions from that. It's essentially what I described, a match EQ.

...so I don't mean a stock vocal really (or maybe I do...) but that there is either:

1. a library of proven EQ starting points (say for a hip hop vocal you'd like to add some high EQ so that the words become very clear), or

2. a library of freq response charts taken from some typical recordings, or from very identifiable voices (say Michael Jackson).

In either case, these could then be used for EQ matching.

For example, I don't sound like David Gahan, but I wouldn't mind to. My voice is much thinner, but I imagine it could easily be EQ matched using an a cappella take of his voice.

[SparkySpark]

Actually I now know that this feature is available in MADEQ, just only for entire songs (like Madonna's Frozen). However, as you say it might make no sense doing this for a vocal track; it depends on how generic they are usually EQ tweaked. I figure I can try out MADEQ and test it for myself.

I also understand that for a pro or semipro mixing engineer like yourself there is little need for this functionality (or for EQ matching as a whole). I am more thinking in terms of bedroom musicians, who would be rather unsure of correct levels due to a subpremium listening environment (and lack of listening skills).

[DarkStar]

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For clarification: the Source Analysis presets that come with MADEQ may well be for entire songs, but you can make your own analyses from any audio sample that you like. Get a representative sample clip (ideally an acapella clip), Analyse it and save it for future use.

[SparkySpark]

Yes, I understand this, thanks Darkstar.

I'll try it and see what happens. BTW, here's a fantastuc source for free a cappella voices: https://www.acapellas4u.co.uk

[MeldaProduction]

Yes, you can match the tones, as with any audio. But as you already know, audio is more than just the tone . But it's a good start

[SparkySpark]

Thanks for the reply! Must say I love your work, especially MMorph and MSpectralDelay.

[MeldaProduction]

Thanks for the reply! Must say I love your work, especially MMorph and MSpectralDelay.