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Urs wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:05 pm
Teksonik wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:45 pmAnyway I'm sorry you can't use Hive to its fullest but it looks like your request for Multi-Core support will not be granted so.....good luck. I hope you find a solution. :tu:
It's a lot more complicated than that. Until Repro-5, we always had a strict separation between synths that have multi core support and synths which have a mod matrix. The two concepts were mutually exclusive. The reasons are quite obvious once you know what happens.

For Repro-5 we broke that limitation. And if the ModMatrix in Hive was still a simple as the one in Repro, and if the modulation sources were as simple, we could probably enable multicore support within a few minutes. But this isn't the case. The presence of single trigger envelopes and LFOs alone contradicts the concept of multi core support.

I believe that adding multicore support to Hive would open a can of worms. We would have to add a lot of code, like, exceptions and stuff, which most certainly adds more CPU consumption.
More complicated than "it looks like your request for Multi-Core support will not be granted" ? I was just going by what you were saying......
Urs wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:44 am I think Multicore support would cost more overhead than the benefit would be worth. As long as a single instance is still fully playable I'm sure you're better off letting the host handle the distribution of plug-ins onto CPU cores.
Sounded to me like Multi-core support won't be coming to Hive. Why is irrelevant to me.... :shrug:

Anyway I don't have a problem with Hive's CPU demand. I find it reasonable even at more extreme settings. I might keep an eye on the CPU meter when using Diva but with Hive it's not something I even worry about......
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FYI: Saw this yesterday. It's about CPUs to come in 2019, the continued traversal of parallelism/serialism, etc.

How Intel and AMD are using 'chiplets' to build next-gen CPUs | Upscaled


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Teksonik wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:45 pm
tony10000 wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:01 pm
Teksonik wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:55 am Works on DIVA......... :shrug:

Anyway Hive is one of the those synths that I never even give a second thought about CPU demand. It's always been very efficient here but just like any modern synth it is possible to push it when programming patches at extreme settings (high poly, long releases etc).
Ummm...no. I tried the same test with Synthmaster and it barely cracked the low double digits in CPU usage. There are a lot of other modern synths that are very light on CPU. Europa is another recent example.
Ummm yea. If you push it Synthmaster can use its fair share of CPU. Try Best quality and 64 note poly then max out the Layers, use a bunch of effects etc....like I said extreme settings.
tony10000 wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:01 pmThere are a lot of other modern synths that are very light on CPU
Yes like Hive.....here. Perhaps this CPU Benchmark comparison between our two studio computers will illustrate why. :wink:

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Anyway I'm sorry you can't use Hive to its fullest but it looks like your request for Multi-Core support will not be granted so.....good luck. I hope you find a solution. :tu:
I have a desktop DAW with a faster i5 and I will be building a new desktop DAW soon that will have even more processing power. The limitation is purely with my notebook and I don't have any plans to buy a more expensive one. So, I can workaround CPU intensive plugins on that machine without any problems.

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