Would love to hear it if you do it. Big fan of old skool hard house.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:23 am
Sometimes I can be helpful.
I've wanted to create an old skool Hard House track for ages now. Might start one this weekend
VSTi most like Virus C?
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- KVRist
- 30 posts since 9 Dec, 2017
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- KVRian
- 1071 posts since 27 Apr, 2016
Formant Complex synthesis with F shift and F Spread and Interpol is missing. Probably the most unique and interesting part of the virus sound for me.
- KVRAF
- 15008 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
It’s funny, I have a clear memory of starting a “Synth to replace a Virus C” thread sometime in the mid 00s. I remember getting some hilarious suggestions, like Syrtus... which I bought anyway, because I liked it a lot. Sylenth too... and Zebra. None of which really sounded like the Virus, but great, none the less.Laguna Rising wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:15 am There were a couple of threads about it iirc...
it was some time ago, can't find 'em anymore...
In modern times... probably Spire? Frankly, I use Dune 3 a lot and I feel like it sounds a lot better than any Virus. I’ve owned a C and a TI Snow.
Zerocrossing Media
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- KVRAF
- 15008 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Agreed, that was the best part of the TI Virus for me too. There’s a plugin... let me look it up... https://www.propellerheads.com/en/reaso ... s/malstrom but it’s not a plugin, it’s a synth in Reason. I remember looking into it and thinking that it’s graintable implementation sounded cool but different than the Virus.Synthman2000 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:57 pm Formant Complex synthesis with F shift and F Spread and Interpol is missing. Probably the most unique and interesting part of the virus sound for me.
So, I guess if you need graintable/formattable synthesis in the way that Access does it, then the Virus is your only option. To be honest, though, the TI wavetables are freely available now, and I think you can do really interesting things with them in other software that has wavetable options, like Factory, Icarus or Serum. The reason I got rid of my C was because I was moving to a space where I’d have only a small desk for my gear, but I did discover software that I felt had better and more interesting sounding filters. I tried a Snow later, but while I loved it’s wavetables and the alternate options, those damn filters always left me cold.
Zerocrossing Media
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
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- KVRian
- 1071 posts since 27 Apr, 2016
I think I would buy another Snow if mine broke. Important synth for me now.
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- KVRian
- 1355 posts since 27 Oct, 2009
There was an interview with the creator of the Virus. Basically, he said he wants nothing to do with synths anymore. His new child, the Kemper Profiling Amp is the future for him, obviously.
Viper is a kind of an development of the Virus line. I would call it a TI3. It has contemporary 0df filters, user waves, and wavetables are coming in a future update, Adam says.
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- KVRian
- 521 posts since 19 Jun, 2016
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- KVRian
- 521 posts since 19 Jun, 2016
zerocrossing wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:41 pmAgreed, that was the best part of the TI Virus for me too. There’s a plugin... let me look it up... https://www.propellerheads.com/en/reaso ... s/malstrom but it’s not a plugin, it’s a synth in Reason. I remember looking into it and thinking that it’s graintable implementation sounded cool but different than the Virus.Synthman2000 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:57 pm Formant Complex synthesis with F shift and F Spread and Interpol is missing. Probably the most unique and interesting part of the virus sound for me.
So, I guess if you need graintable/formattable synthesis in the way that Access does it, then the Virus is your only option. To be honest, though, the TI wavetables are freely available now, and I think you can do really interesting things with them in other software that has wavetable options, like Factory, Icarus or Serum. The reason I got rid of my C was because I was moving to a space where I’d have only a small desk for my gear, but I did discover software that I felt had better and more interesting sounding filters. I tried a Snow later, but while I loved it’s wavetables and the alternate options, those damn filters always left me cold.
..that's the thing, i love Icarus and without being able to test a virus hands on i still feel most of it's sound is "somewhat acomplishable" with other synths
Maybe each has it's own sounds and particularities but i end up always thinking, well i don't have a virus phaser+etc but i do have a lot of other stuff virus doesn't have either.. and what matters the most, i like the sounds i get out of it
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- KVRian
- 1071 posts since 27 Apr, 2016
Whilst I appreciate a good filter is a great asset I do sometimes think too much is made of filters in 2019. There are many other ways to alter sound in as interesting ways, I have a bit of filter movement in my sounds made recently on the Virus but I know where the filters sound good, that's the region where I make them operate. Once you have discerned this range for each sound, you don't need to worry.
The virus is very rich in many areas, has a record ready sound with a miminmal of fuss and can still create mind blowing sounds even without much filter movement.
The virus is very rich in many areas, has a record ready sound with a miminmal of fuss and can still create mind blowing sounds even without much filter movement.
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- KVRAF
- 35449 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Not sure what i should think about the Kyra, to be honest. Doesn't sound bad, but, doesn't sound extremely exciting either. TBH, i think VA hardware lags a bit behind soft synth development now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFUG1_em3WI
Waldorf also seems to be keen on purchasing external talent. I don't quite see that common theme anymore. Where's the Waldorf sound in Kyra? Nave still had it, as did the Quantum, but, the Kyra sounds different.
- KVRian
- 527 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Frankly, I felt the same way but, I kind of chalked it up to NAMM maybe not being the greatest place to really get a feel for what the Kyra is capable of, and am waiting to see how it really works in capable handschk071 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:08 pmNot sure what i should think about the Kyra, to be honest. Doesn't sound bad, but, doesn't sound extremely exciting either. TBH, i think VA hardware lags a bit behind soft synth development now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFUG1_em3WI
Waldorf also seems to be keen on purchasing external talent. I don't quite see that common theme anymore. Where's the Waldorf sound in Kyra? Nave still had it, as did the Quantum, but, the Kyra sounds different.
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- KVRAF
- 35449 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Yeah, really shouldn't judge it yet... actually, watching some more vids, i can't say i dislike the sound so far. At least, it has a bit of punch, unlike some of nowadays "super clean, super bright, super soft envelope" kind of synths which seem to be so popular now.
Maybe they should just add more reverb to the sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38Knd3VW4U
Maybe they should just add more reverb to the sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38Knd3VW4U
- KVRian
- 527 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Apparently there’s a little background info on the NAMM video. For one, that’s a Korg rep demoing, and nobody thought to bring a manual along with the Kyra. Absolutely amazing. This is a gearslutz thread on the very issue:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... op-27.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... op-27.html