Arturia VCollection 7 Official thread

[dune_rave]

If you don’t have V Collection 7, then Analog Lab 4 will only give you a few presets for the new Pigments, Synthi, CZ and Mellotron instruments, some 60 presets in total.
Compare to the 1500 presets added between Analog Lab 2 and Analog Lab 3.
Indeed, until Analog Lab 3, we got every single preset from V Collection 6.
Analog Lab 4 put an end to this, giving us merely 60 presets from the four new synths, maybe 10% of what could have been. Up until Analog Lab 4 you didn’t need to buy the V Collection to enjoy all its presets. Now you do.
Times are a-changing.

I've just realised this with analog lab 4, anyway i'm not a great fan of analog lab and the fact they are changing it in this way will not make me love this lab software

[c_voltage]

Damn, i still hope that above problem that i described (in Synthi) it's bug nonetheless, because i tried better, it's has amazing feature, like "audio output" as source, and this can produce unreal damn good things It is very difficult to reject from.

Strange but Xils4 for example do not have this source in matrix, and i have never compared his matrix with the real Synthi matrix, so now googled, real device has this source too.. hm strange why Xavier did not implement this. (Though Xils has a bunch of other cool things like whole additional matrix with selectable sources, but there is no this feature).

And I do not remember, in all other synthi implementations that i used (some made on synthedit, some from pluggo) they had this source or not, it seems no.

Definitely need to grab.

[Lotuz2019]

Yes, Mellotron V is 64-bit only, as well as all the new versions of the Arturia instruments.

Just like many other bigger companies like Native Instruments, but I'm glad the smaller ones often still make 32 bit versions of their plugins. I know, it's inevitable that I'll have to upgrade to 64 bit one day to be able to use new music software. I had a try on a 64 bit laptop a couple of weeks ago, but it actually felt like a step backwards instead of forwards. When version 3 of my VST host Maschine is released, but that might take a while, then I'll look into 64 bit again. Hopefully by that time Arturia will have a sale, because the normal price of Mellotron is twice as much as the introduction price of EUR 99.

But it doesn't just "mellotronize" the samples. It has a great "stretch" algorithm which makes the sample to play with the same duration across the entire spanned region. This means that, if you are using a rhythmic phrase, it will play in sync no matter which key you press.

You can turn stretch off, of course, to get the usual sampler behavior.

I can imagine that's useful when you use phrases like the first two examples of this video:

but the Mellotron (for f**k's sake, it's just samples!)

In essence it is, but in making music there's more to it than just the produced audio. I know, a Mellotron VST will never give the exact same experience as a real Mellotron does, but it's definitely a different experience than using a sampler. And that probably results in your music sounding a bit different as well (hopefully better).

[fmr]

... but the Mellotron (for f**k's sake, it's just samples!) ...!

How wrong you are... It it were just samples, why would so many go through the trouble of creating Mellotron sample libraries to be played in samplers?

Just download it and try it with your own samples. You'll be surprised, I promise you.

[Stefken]

There is a sleeper agent from Arturia active on this forum.

[vurt]

There is a sleeper agent from Arturia active on this forum.

do we need pitchforks and torches?

[Stefken]

There is a sleeper agent from Arturia active on this forum.

do we need pitchforks and torches?

No, a good laxative will do just fine .

[vurt]

There is a sleeper agent from Arturia active on this forum.

do we need pitchforks and torches?

No, a good laxative will do just fine .

[SLiC]

I wonder how long it will be before Spark gets a full work over rand is launched as a Machine competitor? Its seem like such an obvious thing to do as it was already a great drum machine and with AL 4 as an integrated browser engine it could be a real integrating force....I always thought Spark was very underrated as it was, but the GUI is a bit dated....make it look like Pigments and they will have a real winner....

[exmatproton]

Truly impressed by CZ, Synthi and Mellotron. Not sure if the upgrade price is "fair" or whatever, but apart from that i am having a real blast with these.

I can't tell if these are particular good emulations (didn't own these synths), but they sound amazing and working with them is fun and intiutive. Love it

[CC4]

Question? Guessing the "Synthopedia" are inter-dispersed among the other presets. Havent see a way to filter those new ones. Maybe that's just the marketing term Arturia attached to all the presets of VC7? dunno -

Synthopedia can be filtered through the Banks tab.

[Scotty]

Up until Analog Lab 4 you didn’t need to buy the V Collection to enjoy all its presets. Now you do.
Times are a-changing.

Yes... I always was amazed at just how good / complete Analog Lab was .. having owned the full library in V6, V5 , V4 , V3 . I think they have realized the potential of making money out of selling preset libraries (which in fairness are not that expensive). Still I was expecting that we'd get a few hundred extra sounds in there. If push came to shove I could do all I needed to do with Analog Lab despite owning the rest of the bundle. It is far more than a preset player. With over 6000 presets in there still it represents tremendous value.

[jdoo]

+1

[teacue]

Demoing the new Arturia Mellotron I am very impressed by the Import Sample feature.

I just tried with some flute and violin samples from the older Siedlaczek Advanced Orchestra library and they instantly got this Mellotron sound character!

The import feature is a little bit fiddly as you cannot see for example the whole name of the imported sample if the samples are mapped close together. I also could not see the name of the sample in the edit sample window.
I find it a pitty to be limited to max 8 user samples per track.
Also there is some limitation in the mapping function: the minimum range for a region is three semitones, it means that you cannot map one sample per semitone.
Considering that the Mellotron uses one sample per semitone I am wondering why Arturia decided to do this.
Maybe to prevent users to create better tapes

But at the end the imported samples sound quite impressive and pretty mellotronic.
Great

[Lotuz2019]

@teacue: Could you please post some examples? I'd like to hear some clear examples of clean samples being 'mellotronized' (before and after).

Too bad that there are these limitations. Each note of a Mellotron has a slightly different character that makes it come alive.

Btw there seems to be missing a tape 'wear', 'ageing' or 'degradation' setting. Some people like the sound as if the Mellotron just came from the factory, others like it more when it sounds like it has been used for half a decade.