Poll: Rename Input/Output gain?
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hi folks, the Input gain and Output gain is there in many places. Why I cannot rename these fully for backwards compatibility, I can change the name on the plugin GUI. The current names are rather big and unnecessary complex. I know, it's a small thing, but the devil is in the detail 
- KVRian
- 1094 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
I voted to keep it the same, but only because I don't understand the problem you are trying to solve. It's it because the long name makes it difficult to make a compact UI? Are you having problems reducing the UI size and this is a limit you are hitting?
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Yes, it's part of it. For instance, if you have a row of knobs containing Input gain, Dry/wet, Slope, then all of the knobs must be as big as the Input gain one, to make it look good, so...vectorwarrior wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:28 pm I voted to keep it the same, but only because I don't understand the problem you are trying to solve. It's it because the long name makes it difficult to make a compact UI? Are you having problems reducing the UI size and this is a limit you are hitting?
I mean it's not a big deal, but I thought it is worth thinking about.
- KVRian
- 1094 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
Ah, in that case, I'd be happy to have it reduced to Input/Output... sorry, I can't revote 
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
I voted for "Gain In/Gain Out", because it's more compact than the first option, only a bit longer than the second one, but still specifies Gain.
"Gain", if not specified, might still be obvious to some, but maybe not for others...especially since Melda plugins have so many features.
"Gain", if not specified, might still be obvious to some, but maybe not for others...especially since Melda plugins have so many features.
- KVRian
- 1059 posts since 28 Jun, 2006 from Germany
I second the last poster. 
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Chandlerhimself Chandlerhimself https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=318799
- KVRAF
- 1823 posts since 19 Dec, 2013 from Japan
Any of them are fine for me. If it makes things look better feel free to change it. I think all of them are understandable.
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Starship Krupa Starship Krupa https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=337746
- KVRist
- 303 posts since 13 Sep, 2014
This may come off as elitist, but if someone sees a knob toward the left-hand side of a plug-in labeled "Input" and can't work out that it controls the input level, Meldaproduction products might not be the best match for their needs in the first place.
They might do better, at least while they're learning, with those Waves ones that are just one big knob.
Seriously, either Gain In or Input will probably get the job done. I hope they don't split the "go ahead and change it" vote.
They might do better, at least while they're learning, with those Waves ones that are just one big knob.
Seriously, either Gain In or Input will probably get the job done. I hope they don't split the "go ahead and change it" vote.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hehe ok, Input & Output it is. It is good since it is like Input gain without gain 
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
Aww man. I gave this some more thought. I was thinking that this one might be more clear:
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hmmm, I'[m completely lost. What exactly are you trying to say with that? 
- KVRian
- 1094 posts since 23 Sep, 2006
New update that released today (RC2) contains the change.
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
So they implemented my button?! Cool! Now I have to download it!vectorwarrior wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 8:21 pm New update that released today (RC2) contains the change.
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Starship Krupa Starship Krupa https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=337746
- KVRist
- 303 posts since 13 Sep, 2014
I like sirmonkey's mock-up, but I also want that exact wording for the automation parameters. It would make setting up automation even more exciting.
Still, I'm glad that Vojtec is going with "Input."
An issue I didn't think of with "Gain In" and "Gain Out" is that someone could think that the big round things at each side are pushbuttons for switching the "Gain" function in and out, like on an amp sim.
Then you'd get reviews like this:
"Melda Productions Free Bundle v.13
I've never liked Melda Productions. I think their graphics are ugly. Mixing plug-ins should look like either battered vintage gear or psychedelic light shows. That's what makes mixing exciting. This new version said that the UI was improved, but it looks just as boring. Their FX still all look the same, so how are you supposed to know if you're using a gate or a reverb or a compressor?
Worse, most of them have this big fat bug: when you click on the 'Gain In' and 'Gain Out' buttons they don't switch Gain in and out. They don't do anything. I even slipped once with the mouse and it changed the volume. Doesn't Melda Productions even test? Lame.
Bottom line: It's free. You get what you pay for. Instead, check out those Waves plug-ins that are just one big knob. They're on sale."
Still, I'm glad that Vojtec is going with "Input."
An issue I didn't think of with "Gain In" and "Gain Out" is that someone could think that the big round things at each side are pushbuttons for switching the "Gain" function in and out, like on an amp sim.
Then you'd get reviews like this:
"Melda Productions Free Bundle v.13
I've never liked Melda Productions. I think their graphics are ugly. Mixing plug-ins should look like either battered vintage gear or psychedelic light shows. That's what makes mixing exciting. This new version said that the UI was improved, but it looks just as boring. Their FX still all look the same, so how are you supposed to know if you're using a gate or a reverb or a compressor?
Worse, most of them have this big fat bug: when you click on the 'Gain In' and 'Gain Out' buttons they don't switch Gain in and out. They don't do anything. I even slipped once with the mouse and it changed the volume. Doesn't Melda Productions even test? Lame.
Bottom line: It's free. You get what you pay for. Instead, check out those Waves plug-ins that are just one big knob. They're on sale."
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 26 Sep, 2014
Ha! Just for kicks, I checked out the link to the "One Knob" series. There are 8 plugs, totaling about $240.00 if you bought them all.
Geeez, you can do everything that all those $29 and $39 plugins do with the Melda Free Bundle, and much more, and with much more flexibility. But those knobs sure look fancy!
Geeez, you can do everything that all those $29 and $39 plugins do with the Melda Free Bundle, and much more, and with much more flexibility. But those knobs sure look fancy!
