Super 8 - New polysynth by Native Instruments

[Stefken]

So many grumpy old men in this thread...

its the kvr way


"this is not something im interested in, therefore i must trash talk it!!!"

Its sort of the kvr version of "someone is wrong on the internet"

tweedle dum and tweedle dee.

i dont like this!

i like this!

let's battle!

There's Always "Who's on first base".

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

The funny thing which i just realized is... people always asked for a classic subtractive synth like this from NI, because, people always argued that it's the one thing missing. Now they release one, and people complain about the Reaktor requirement.

One thing does not negate the other. It is perfectly possible to want a classic subtractive synth while also bemoaning the fact that comes in a wrapper, which some consider comes with a few disadvantages.
Personally, I love Reaktor, and just take it within my stride that certain of NI instruments and effects have to be loaded from within. That doesn't mean that I don't understand those who dislike it; Nor does it mean that I wouldn't prefer the option of standalone use (I still might be buy 'Driver' despite having it for free in 'Blocks' form
An unnecessary step is just that. And clearly NI are very aware when not to force users to jump through unnecessary hoops e.g Massive X = Plug-out

Hard times in paradise.

And there it is. Just like our buddy, pixel, you can't help but pull the 'You fools don't even know you're born', superiority card.
I'm one of a group of people here who was recording music when editing meant either getting out the chalk and razor blades, or having to re-do the take; and yet I don't begrudge anyone the right to speak out against even the simplest workflow redundancy, especially when it is so arbitrary

[chk071]

Yawnie McYawnson.

What's next? You try to tell me that self-entitlement attitude on the net only exists in my imagination? Or that it's normal that companies which do extraordinary well on the market, get rammed into the ground here when they release a new product?

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

I feel like people are becoming more and more fragile with every year and they uplift small things to something that in their eyes looks like a matter of life and death.

Especially with young newcomers coming every year who are familiar with multitasking environment and few clicks here and there is nothing to them.

Which is it?

[chk071]

BTW, i definitely consider myself superior to the (mostly same) users here, who cry over some minor things, when ANY new plugin is released. Of course i am superior to those. What a question. I wouldn't want to live like that, and destroy my life with things which will prevent me from doing 99% of the stuff i want to do.

[vurt]

BTW, i definitely consider myself superior to the (mostly same) users here, who cry over some minor things, when ANY new plugin is released. Of course i am superior to those. What a question.

[chk071]

[martinjuenke]

- Hey we have this new simple synth with great sound and no need to go deep into menu and tabs!
- You lack of innovation! I saw something similar thousand times!
- Hey we have this new synth with experimental engine and synthesis technology!
- It's too complex give me something easy to work with!
- Hey we have this simple synth with some new/unusual synthesis technology!
- I need to use Reaktor which means 3 more mouse click I can't be bothered with such amount of tasks to do!!!!!!!!
- But you can use it in Komplete Kontrol/[other alternative method]
- Idc! I don't want to use simpler way I just don't want to use your product at all!
-...
- How you dare to offer me this synth that I don't want!!!!!!!!

^^^kvraudio in summary

Well said!

[Toets]

And this one is Reaktor based

Source: https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... s/super-8/

Edit. wrong link!

All i could think is : more future blocks for reactor..
and that makes it kinda cool for me..

Which makes me wobder how long its gonna take for this to be available in modular building blocks?

[gentleclockdivider]

Is this a sort of simple pre-runner to Massive X to test the waters?

What waters ??
Super eight is a reaktor core based instrument , the forthcoming massive 2 is not
Super 8 is loosely based on the jup 8 , alpha juno ( waveforms ) + prophet filter , the other is a wavetablesynth etc..

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Yawnie McYawnson.

If you're tired, you could always just stop responding

What's next? You try to tell me that self-entitlement attitude on the net only exists in my imagination?

If you want to speculate on what I might say next, then that's on you. However, just to help you out, I do think that some people have an attitude of self-entitlement, both on the internet and in 'IRL'.

Or that it's normal that companies which do extraordinary well on the market, get rammed into the ground here when they release a new product?

They've not been rammed into the ground, here. Opinion seems divided. Some folk don't like the redundancy (Workflow, CPU etc) of arbitrary wrapper requirements. Some folk seem to not see the point in the synth. Some others can see it being useful, but probably aren't in a rush to buy it. And others seem to have a positive, albeit, lukewarm response. Some folk do some things, sometimes. Maybe stop generalising
As for "companies which do extraordinary well on the market" : What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that their market success invalidates any contrary opinion? Or that it there success is a measure of them getting everything right?

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

BTW, i definitely consider myself superior to the (mostly same) users here, who cry over some minor things, when ANY new plugin is released. Of course i am superior to those. What a question. I wouldn't want to live like that, and destroy my life with things which will prevent me from doing 99% of the stuff i want to do.

You might want to get a little bit of perspective about what is being talked about, here

As for your feeling of superiority, good for you

[chk071]

As for "companies which do extraordinary well on the market" : What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that their market success invalidates any contrary opinion? Or that it there success is a measure of them getting everything right?

No. Just that there's a certain discrepancy between the feedback here, and the amount of people actually buying, and liking the products.

On the other side, there's one man businesses, which never will go beyond that, which notoriously get their butts licked here, just because they don't do sales. Which tells me that, mostly, it's not about the quality of the products, but, about ideology, and politics.

Not that that surprises me, really. It's the same with - Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon, Facebook... you name them.

[wagtunes]

As for "companies which do extraordinary well on the market" : What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that their market success invalidates any contrary opinion? Or that it there success is a measure of them getting everything right?

No. Just that there's a certain discrepancy between the feedback here, and the amount of people actually buying, and liking the products.

To be fair, unless you have inside information about the company, you really don't know how well they do. But more specifically, you have no idea how well Super 8 will be received. It may turn out to be a failure in terms of sales. We just have no way of knowing.

[chk071]

They have about 400 employees. Show me another similar company who has that amount, and is doing so well.