Super 8 - New polysynth by Native Instruments

[chk071]

I don't think that Massive X would have an huge impact on sales if it would be in Reaktor (Player).

I'm pretty sure it would. Reaktor is a footnote. Not everyone is into modular synths (i'd say, even, the least), and you really restrict your traget audience with that. Especially with a EDM synth, like Massive was.

[Robmobius]

Shame about the Reaktor thing... But I like the synth. I think the price is okay.

Hmmm... reckon I'll pick it up.

[Biome_Digital]

Sounds pretty good, but was I the only one hearing that clicking sound? Was it because of the envelope settings? I should just get the demo version and check it out myself.

Did get this clicking as well while playing and it wasn't wanted

[Elektronisch]

Staring away a bit from this synth and thinking openly...why NI introduced coolest stuff - libraries and synths after K12U is already out. Upgrade from 11th to 12th ultimate doesnt look atractive anymore even on sale

[chk071]

The funny thing which i just realized is... people always asked for a classic subtractive synth like this from NI, because, people always argued that it's the one thing missing. Now they release one, and people complain about the Reaktor requirement. Hard times in paradise.

[mcbpete]

Reaktor is a footnote. Not everyone is into modular synths (i'd say, even, the least), and you really restrict your traget audience with that. Especially with a EDM synth, like Massive was.

Nah I disagree: In the same way I can't be bothered to build an sample instrument and just want to play something - so use Kontakt Player rather than the full Kontakt, if I want to use a pre-made synth or effect rack I'll happily load up Reaktor Player rather than require the full Reaktor beast.

Not sure such a milestone of a product like Massive will be a Reaktor Player device of course, but (as with Monark) I wouldn't see it being too problematic if it was.

[Stefken]

I feel like people are becoming more and more fragile with every year and they uplift small things to something that in their eyes looks like a matter of life and death.

I don't think that Massive X would have an huge impact on sales if it would be in Reaktor (Player). I got feeling that people complaining about Reaktor are in huge but vocal minority.

On what do you base that assumption?

Personally, I think it's stubbornness on the part of NI. I cannot conceive that they cannot provide a one click solution.

But we are spoiled. That is true.
From my own experience, I can say that users are prone to whine about little things like having to click a few times.

How far do you go to keep your user content? It's a tough balance.
But if an issue keeps popping up (in other words, people keep whining about it) , it's my opinion that, as a responsable developer, you should resolve the issue.

(For the record, I have a one click solution in my DAW. It's actually not hard to do. But apparently for enough users it seems to be a problem. When this is reported to you as a developer, you have to accept this as a fact and work from there, to give your users the experience that they want.
Always a tough balance though....).

[Sound Mechanics]

Is this a sort of simple pre-runner to Massive X to test the waters?

[Sound Mechanics]

DP

[herodotus]

So many grumpy old men in this thread...

its the kvr way


"this is not something im interested in, therefore i must trash talk it!!!"

Its sort of the kvr version of "someone is wrong on the internet"

[Lotuzia]

Maybe it's nice to use in actual studio works.

It's super-quick to use and get good/great sounds out of it. Simply because everything is there on one page. Consider it as a beefed-up (Alpha) Juno through Prophet-5 filter crossbreed with (way) more possibilies.

Yes, but well, I don't mind at all clicking on a tab, or even a lot of tabs, to get that exact/precise sound I want.

Uhh, then choose another synth? This one was never meant to be sound designer's dream, I suppose.

Ah those (multi-chained) truncated quotes

What I said precisely was simply : Beeing a one window synth has few influences on my final choices. I use such synths, and I use some much more complex instruments as well.
In the end -to me- : Only sound speaks : UI/GUI is only the medium/tool to achieve settings that will drive you to the sound journey. Music. Ymmv.

[chk071]

Reaktor is a footnote. Not everyone is into modular synths (i'd say, even, the least), and you really restrict your traget audience with that. Especially with a EDM synth, like Massive was.

Nah I disagree: In the same way I can't be bothered to build an sample instrument and just want to play something - so use Kontakt Player rather than the full Kontakt, if I want to use a pre-made synth or effect rack I'll happily load up Reaktor Player rather than require the full Reaktor beast.

Not sure such a milestone of a product like Massive will be a Reaktor Player device of course, but (as with Monark) I wouldn't see it being too problematic if it was.

I don't have a problem with it either, but, i have Reaktor, and before that, for Monark, i had Reaktor Player. Let's just say that i can well understand that people don't want to install two additional softwares (Native Access and Reaktor (Player)), to play with this synth. Not much of a hassle for me, but, we're all different in that regard.

[vurt]

Pleasant noises, in particular

you're not actually the least bit evil are you

this is true, surprisingly though, when ed joined, "very naughty little dragon" was already taken

[vurt]

So many grumpy old men in this thread...

its the kvr way


"this is not something im interested in, therefore i must trash talk it!!!"

Its sort of the kvr version of "someone is wrong on the internet"

tweedle dum and tweedle dee.

i dont like this!

i like this!

let's battle!

[Sinisterbr]

Reaktor is a footnote. Not everyone is into modular synths (i'd say, even, the least), and you really restrict your traget audience with that. Especially with a EDM synth, like Massive was.

Nah I disagree: In the same way I can't be bothered to build an sample instrument and just want to play something - so use Kontakt Player rather than the full Kontakt, if I want to use a pre-made synth or effect rack I'll happily load up Reaktor Player rather than require the full Reaktor beast.

Not sure such a milestone of a product like Massive will be a Reaktor Player device of course, but (as with Monark) I wouldn't see it being too problematic if it was.

I don't have a problem with it either, but, i have Reaktor, and before that, for Monark, i had Reaktor Player. Let's just say that i can well understand that people don't want to install two additional softwares (Native Access and Reaktor (Player)), to play with this synth. Not much of a hassle for me, but, we're all different in that regard.

That's exactly me. I want to get to the point as fast as possible. Spoiled? Maybe, but I can't help, that's how my head works nowadays.
Besides, wasn't a fast workflow something we all appreciated in the old VA hardware? Why is it so wrong to look for that in software?
Start making music was as far as turning a power switch on. I can't see that in Reaktor.