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telecode wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 8:27 pm I see. That sort of makes sense. I have looked at some of the functionality of FL Studio and see some of its strong points. I wonder if it makes more sense to just get Elements and get another DAW. I have been seriously looking more into Ableton as I hear that workflow is very very fast. I always stayed away because I thought it was a DJ tool. But I also made the same mistake with Maschine many years ago. I thought it was a EDM DJ tool, but after I got it and figured out how to use it, I live and breathe by it.
That's exactly what I've done. I use FL Studio for the "creative" part and Cubase Elements for mixing. My perfect DAW would be "Cubase Fruity Edition" :D
But like everybody else I couldn't resist the lure of a good deal and I've ordered Cubase Artist now. I'm not sure if I really need it at the moment, there's a lot you can get done with Elements, but it might come in handy for future updates to version 11.

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telecode wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 10:52 am
ATN69 wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 10:20 am I had FL Studio 20 and Studio One 4 already and after crossgrade i still have those plus a full version of Cubase Pro 10. So far I like Cubase and I can notice the workflow is somewhat similar to Studio One
I honestly don't understand people that use multiple DAWs. Pick one and learn to use it really well. Getting yet another DAW another tool in your toolbox is not going to make a change and enable you to make that great new thing that will make you stand out from the masses. You are better off investing that $200 into a ticket to SXSW and trying to meet people and make contacts.
I have loads of - it broadens the horizon, makes you better at adapting and so forth... but I was always like that - while I was studying at the university, I would take five books about the same topic home with me from the library. Then I would compare them systematically - first the lists of content, then the chapters they all had in common and the chapters where there seemed to be little overlap and I tried to find issues where they would contradict each other and see where they were very much in agreement - and so forth yadda yadda - that gave me a much better and bigger picture - it's not something that is required, but personally I couldn't do without - so I think it basically comes down to what kind of personality you have.

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Bombadil wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 3:07 pm Thomann shows cgrade availability in 1-2 weeks. I will not be here then, so I ordered at ms.de. Ordered yesterday, arrived today. Can't do better than that! the dongle is included. Yes, same conditions as MS.de.

Ah, I think that might explain it then (assuming you mean musicstore.de) - the Sauers always had a way of using their influence to get a bit of a special treatment.

(that was my local store back at the end of the 80's and beginning of the 90's when it was basically just two stories in a relatively small house)

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Passing Bye wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 8:46 pm
telecode wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 8:27 pm I have been seriously looking more into Ableton as I hear that workflow is very very fast.
Go with Bitwig, makes much more sense and cost less.
If you want to stay up the date, Bitwig is currently one of the most expensive DAWs. Initial investment is moderate but cost of ownership is a bit outlandish. If you continuously want to stay up to date, that is.
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Yeah, I don't think bitwig is cheaper right now ;)

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I use FL vsti inside S1 4. Also use Waveform for the chordal/melody/pattern thingy which is like Captain Chords without big brother watching.

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mgw38 wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 9:56 pm
Passing Bye wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 8:46 pm
telecode wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 8:27 pm I have been seriously looking more into Ableton as I hear that workflow is very very fast.
Go with Bitwig, makes much more sense and cost less.
If you want to stay up the date, Bitwig is currently one of the most expensive DAWs. Initial investment is moderate but cost of ownership is a bit outlandish. If you continuously want to stay up to date, that is.
You can wait 3 more years and update for less and get way more new features for your buck, compared to Live, which cost more in every way.

Bitwig vs Live

Initial: 399 vs 749
Upgrade: 169 vs 239

Bitwig: 399(you got one free year) + 3x169= 906
Live: 749+239 for ~4 years worth of development= 988

But that’s just numbers, development pace of Bitwig influenced by the yearly model is much faster because they really need to give good reasons to update all the time, so yearly features are really great and can challenge ones Live needs 4 years to charge for, right now as things are, Bitwig makes much more sense.

Of course, if one wants sketch pad to rewire it to his main DAW, Live Intro is better choice.
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David W wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 7:23 pm
dellboy wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 4:17 pm I keep getting a pop up window asking for Cubase to be registered.

Does anyone know if its best to register it (its already activated) or should I permanently dismiss the popup ?

Are there any advantages or disadvantages to registering or not ?
Make sure the eLicenser with your Cubase licence on is registered and appears in your My Steinberg page. Not only is this required for technical support, but you really need to have registered the eLicenser to get help if an eLicenser is lost, stolen or stops working.

If the eLicenser is registered, click the "Already registered" button that has already been mentioned, which dismisses the reminders.
Another advantage to a registered dongle is if_you_lose_it there is Zero Downtime (a lifebuoy icon at your MySteinberg) and you can get a replacement license. Pretty quick, too.

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Does the Elements version of Cubase 10 co taintsthe Sampler and Arranger Track?

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ls1xxx wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 3:05 pm Does the Elements version of Cubase 10 co taintsthe Sampler and Arranger Track?
Yes

Here 's a full list of comparison between various version of Cubase https://new.steinberg.net/cubase/compare-editions/

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Passing Bye wrote: Tue May 14, 2019 11:12 pm Bitwig vs Live

Initial: 399 vs 749
Upgrade: 169 vs 239

Bitwig: 399(you got one free year) + 3x169= 906
Live: 749+239 for ~4 years worth of development= 988
Not to hijack this thread but you do realize that the scale is tipping substantially after year 4.

You can spin it anyway you want, but the average annual cost of ownership of the individual DAWs is currently (based on upgrade/update prices over the last few years):

Pro-Tools $199
Bitwig $169
Cubase $74
Ableton $69,75
Waveform $69
Studio One $50
FL Studio $0
Logic $0

In EDU pricing Bitwig becomes the most expensive DAW because there is a 50% discount on the Pro-Tools subscription whereas there is no educational discount on Bitwig updates.

And the „you don‘t have to upgrade Bitwig“ is marketing BS because you don‘t have to upgrade any DAW.

Not saying it is not worth it. Maybe it is. Just saying that it is not at all cheaper.
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After long consideration i decided to take the plunge too, and upgrade my Artist 9 to version 10... i think the added features are well worth it, i'm especially pleased that i can drag and drop instruments and effects now to add them to new tracks (if i understand that correctly), and, GUI wise, it's just so coherent that i couldn't pass on it. :) The download is hefty though, Artist 9 was 10 gigs, and version 10 is 21 gigs now... guess i'll only install what i really need now, so i don't end up with a lot of stuff i won't, and which need to be uninstalled individually.

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Took me 1/2 hour to figure out how to adjust the audio buffer size, lol. Ah well. I wasn't using my brain for much these days, anyway.
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