Shreddage 3 Stratus: AVAILABLE NOW!

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magicmusic
KVRian
995 posts since 11 Nov, 2013

Post Thu May 16, 2019 3:33 am

maybe can try how this note in example sound without denoised samples. I guess denoising is very bad, when after the denoise the level is increase by 12 db or more (happen with distortion). the denoise can produce artefacts that only hear when boost level and clip after denoise. Or maybe if really want use denoise, the denoise need monitor with distortion sound if it sound clean
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EvilDragon
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17987 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: Shreddage 3 Stratus: AVAILABLE NOW!

Post Thu May 16, 2019 3:54 am

Denoising most certainly wasn't done badly, it was done by a professional in the field of sample editing (he also worked on many other ISW libraries). It's not his first time denoising samples, for sure ;)

magicmusic
KVRian
995 posts since 11 Nov, 2013

Re: Shreddage 3 Stratus: AVAILABLE NOW!

Post Thu May 16, 2019 5:01 am

what do you think was the reason, wy the tones sound so unclean ?. it sound as if there are grains, or short loop clicks at lower frequency. (I know that the sounds are not loop.) . or maybe they do other processing as denoise on the recorded strings . I never get such sound from my strat. I do in the past never test clean denoising and later distort. did you know which program they use for denoise, maybe i can try a demo of this denoise plugin and see what happen with this program when i denoise my clean strat records and distort them later so i can confirm or not if such a unclean clicky sound come from denoise
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EvilDragon
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Re: Shreddage 3 Stratus: AVAILABLE NOW!

Post Thu May 16, 2019 6:04 am

Izotope RX was definitely used, alongside Acon Digital's Restoration Suite etc. These are all top-notch tools.


I'm still thinking you might be having too much gain overall. There are no such issues like what you're showing in naked Stratus demos, as far as I can hear.

magicmusic
KVRian
995 posts since 11 Nov, 2013

Re: Shreddage 3 Stratus: AVAILABLE NOW!

Post Thu May 16, 2019 7:05 am

I use the default brit Power Lead.nksn. it use the VAN51 for distortion. there can set the lead knob to full left minmum and rythm to minimum too. it get little better, but still far away from good.

there are nksn "Overdrive Solo" "Fat Cat Rythm" "DS1 Only Rythm" and much more with same problem.

i have not resave the presets. when i want load a stratus nksn(forst time when all samples need load) then i get kontakt message Content missing. I click on Search filesystem button and all is load. so i am sure i have no modified nksn

a nksn that sound good is Crisp AC. but this is only very few distortet and no lead sound(that sound simular as the strat videos i link from other in this thread)
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magicmusic
KVRian
995 posts since 11 Nov, 2013

Re: Shreddage 3 Stratus: AVAILABLE NOW!

Post Fri May 17, 2019 6:35 am

I do a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO5CCApwSXQ with a real strat that play on 2. string F3 neck pickup and later play with stratus same string and fret and neck pickup and same Bias amp preset on both. In stratus i disable all effects and on bias amp level display can see that input level of both guitars is same. A tunerdisplay to show frequency can see in video too. on real strat i do no vibrato on stratus is vibrato depth set to 0. that the frequency change during tone more is maybe because the strings are over 20 years old and the guitar is i guess 30 years old now. I remove the dust, but with this old guitar can hear much cleaner, tone less noise. in master there is a reverb use. without reverb, stratus sound a little better, but for guitar mostly use a reverb with lots early reflections

maybe stratus use some effects or it use autotune ?. I think autotune is worse for guitar

when use autotune this can explain the clicks in stratus too.
if so, please tell how i can get a tone that sound clean as a real strat.

EDIT: i see in the knob of stratus page there was vibrato amount show. but when set this knob to 0 result is same. i only add the stratus plugin add notes and move not modulation wheel

Edit2: to let sound the real strat more as stratus there can boost with Eq 500 hz 4 db. but this still give no such clicks as stratus. tone stay always clean
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