Have to purchase Cloud subscription for my downloads at discoDSP

[Vertion]

I have dealt with public shaming for a long time and seen just how destructive it can be to the survival of not just one person, but their family and their community.

I would say, rebuke DiscoDSP, absolutely, but give the company a chance to apologize and mend it's position. If you never give a positive out, then the situation will not improve. Rebuke, yes, but this should not be a public hanging. Let DiscoDSP share their side of the story. You are assuming it's all blind greed and deception, and a shame if it is so, but if the company is desperately trying to put food on the table for their family, that's another story.

[Russell Grand]

i've seen these threads where he would sell his plugins with a discount for a limited number of licenses (extremely limited, think 3 licenses) during Black Friday, and the offer would hang for days if not weeks. if no one is bothered enough to buy 3 licenses while they're at a discount, i don't think he's doing very well on the overall.

first he's asking people to pay for upgrade to new copy protection, now he's basically doing the IK-style "download reactivation fee", except he's not offering any sample libraries - the plugin downloads are always free even with IK - it's basically extortion. and $29 for a year? how often do his plugins get updated during the year? i for one don't remember last time he updated any of the plugins i owned (i sold all of them). this doesn't look very well.

+1

[Russell Grand]

Ok George I know you'll be reading this so where do I send the bill to charge you for the patches I gave you for free all those years ago and are still included in the factory patches ? I figure $500 should cover using them for 13 years.

Send me a PM and I'll give you my PayPal address

[Russell Grand]

I found the reason why he needs to milk customers..

https://www.facebook.com/discodsp/video ... 909721718/

That's funny.
But no way, those are some sh*t records.

[Russell Grand]

I have dealt with public shaming for a long time and seen just how destructive it can be to the survival of not just one person, but their family and their community.

...but give the company a chance to apologize and mend it's position.

Don't hold your breath on that one...

[wagtunes]

I have dealt with public shaming for a long time and seen just how destructive it can be to the survival of not just one person, but their family and their community.

I would say, rebuke DiscoDSP, absolutely, but give the company a chance to apologize and mend it's position. If you never give a positive out, then the situation will not improve. Rebuke, yes, but this should not be a public hanging. Let DiscoDSP share their side of the story. You are assuming it's all blind greed and deception, and a shame if it is so, but if the company is desperately trying to put food on the table for their family, that's another story.

But there has to be another way of doing that to put food on the table.

Imagine you go to a store to buy something, you pay for it, and then as you're walking out the store somebody stops you at the door and says "Sorry, but you have to pay an additional $10 to take that out of the store and to your car."

You'd look at him like he was on drugs.

And in this case, no warning was given to customers. So a buyer of XYZ plugin bought it in good faith thinking that they can download it anytime they need to only to now find out that they can't unless they pay a cloud subscription.

On what planet is this even ethical?

Sorry, food on table or not, there is NO excuse for this action, which is questionably illegal.

[Russell Grand]

Decent analogy, Wag.
Well-stated comment all-around, I agree.

[teilo]

May as well pile on. I bought his OB-XD for iPad today. This is the result:



Granted, he says a fix is coming, but seriously, how does a product get released for sale like this? It's absolutely useless to me.

[Vertion]

Sorry, food on table or not, there is NO excuse for this action, which is questionably illegal.

The problem with evil is it hides behind a face of good and directs blame at the fool. All too often we are looking for the ones behind the misdeeds and looking to point a finger at any cause of our sufferings, only to get it wrong again and again. The best way to avoid this destructive impulse is to get the whole story and a lot of patience. DiscoDSP may have indeed transgressed as it appears, but before you are ready to self-rationalize those ready-to-throw tomatoes, wait and see how the story unfolds or risk humiliation and guilt upon yourself, or even worse, self-deception and pride. You seem a good guy, I'm guessing Sagittarius..

[wagtunes]

Sorry, food on table or not, there is NO excuse for this action, which is questionably illegal.

The problem with evil is it hides behind a face of good and directs blame at the fool. All too often we are looking for the ones behind the misdeeds and looking to point a finger at any cause of our sufferings, only to get it wrong again and again. The best way to avoid this destructive impulse is to get the whole story and a lot of patience. DiscoDSP may have indeed transgressed as it appears, but before you are ready to self-rationalize those ready-to-throw tomatoes, wait and see how the story unfolds or risk humiliation and guilt upon yourself, or even worse, self-deception and pride. You seem a good guy, I'm guessing Sagittarius..

No, I'm a Scorpio and I call things as I see them. I've been burned way too many times by stuff like this and when my radar goes off, rarely, if ever, is it unjustified.

There simply cannot be a reasonable excuse for this. Please read my analogy above because this is EXACTLY what has been done.

Sorry but nobody can justify this.

But then that's the world we now live in where we excuse everything.

And that's why the world's in the shape it's in.

[mrdoghead]

For the person with the "censorship" complaint - no, it is governments that censor people, when they do. Private entities only have the power to act like jerks. You're having your say right here.

As am I.

Were discoDSP doing the kind of regular development to get anyone to think of a subscription (a thought that should always be rejected for the sake of financial sanity, unless you run a grant program for software developers), this would still be a bad move. If these guys can't afford to continue, fine. Release the code to the user base and move on. The subscription gambit, out of nowhere, just alienates users. It will cost you support, not improve you finances.

I'm sorry to see this go so wrong.

[Distorted Horizon]

I'm sorry to see this go so wrong.

+1

Discovery Pro and Corona are very good synths and I've remembered to mention that to people I've talked with.

Sorry to see this go so wrong..

[AnX]

May as well pile on. I bought his OB-XD for iPad today. This is the result:


Granted, he says a fix is coming, but seriously, how does a product get released for sale like this? It's absolutely useless to me.

poor testing, simple as that.

[plexuss]

I have a bunch of discoDSP products. I like them and use them. It would be a shame if they stopped working. But, this is the world of plugins and I went in knowing the risks based on the devs track record. So, I'm not surprised and not too concerned about it. i think it would be a long time before I'd need to update so if I have to pay $30 to do that every 4-5 years I'm ok with that, as long as the guy stays in business. the latter is what will kill the plugins. this is an evolving/devolving market that is constantly changing. it takes more guts to be in the plugin market than in the stock market!

[JamminFool]

Completely outrageous. No warning, no nothing. Unacceptable. He deserves to go out of business if he thinks otherwise. Which he apparently does.