Best Way to Go Out with a Bang
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Distorted Horizon Distorted Horizon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392076 - Banned
- 3878 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats
Lion king is your favorite movie perhaps?
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Leonard Bowman Leonard Bowman https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=422028
- KVRist
- 201 posts since 4 Jul, 2018 from the nest
If you are really intimidated/annoyed/whatever by the EDM market, make your own. You can find a style of EDM that tends towards any style of writing. Some EDM has serious compositional merit.
Or don't, and live with what you have now. Nobody ever said a career making music was easy.
I used to dislike pop music. I originally called myself a "composer," and had a clear mental divide between us "composers" and those "songwriters" who just used the same four chords. Then I started producing music, and realized how powerful four chords can be with a good production. Also, I learned how crappy "good composition" sounds with a bad production. Recently I've started trending towards EDM styles in my writing because I'm discovering the amazing sound potential across the genre. Of course, my EDM has lots of quintuplets and extended chords, because that's how I like to write.
Nothing wrong with selling out if you can bring your style with you.
It's probably important to note that I do all of this as a hobby. And if you are looking for someone to work with or something to work on, I'm always up for collaboration.
Or don't, and live with what you have now. Nobody ever said a career making music was easy.
I used to dislike pop music. I originally called myself a "composer," and had a clear mental divide between us "composers" and those "songwriters" who just used the same four chords. Then I started producing music, and realized how powerful four chords can be with a good production. Also, I learned how crappy "good composition" sounds with a bad production. Recently I've started trending towards EDM styles in my writing because I'm discovering the amazing sound potential across the genre. Of course, my EDM has lots of quintuplets and extended chords, because that's how I like to write.
Nothing wrong with selling out if you can bring your style with you.
It's probably important to note that I do all of this as a hobby. And if you are looking for someone to work with or something to work on, I'm always up for collaboration.
mostly here for the One Synth Challenge
you can hear some of my newest music at: https://wrenharmonic.bandcamp.com/ or https://www.youtube.com/@wrenharmonic
you can hear some of my newest music at: https://wrenharmonic.bandcamp.com/ or https://www.youtube.com/@wrenharmonic
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- KVRian
- 502 posts since 3 Feb, 2018
Do you even have affinity with club culture, the culture and history of dance music, raves, techno or anything like that... or did it just seem like a nice career opportunity? I've been doing this for well over 10 years, no other reason than I'm just happy to be a part of it. To me dance music is not a marketable consumer product like pop, or a career path.. it's a participation culture... which you can do on many, many levels.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
"If you are really intimidated/annoyed/whatever by the EDM market, make your own."
Is "EDM" mandatory now?
"realized how powerful four chords can be with a good production. "
Sure, it wasn't a melody or anything special about the impact of it via timing or any compositional anything, "four chords" is transformed by "production" per se. This really is EDM Producer thinking so one supposes it's a viable path forward for you.
I rather doubt this is the place to look for 'serious compositional merit' at the outset, however.
I never had that kind of prejudice against simplicity, or pop music in and of itself. Not sure how this relates to "EDM" (whatever that umbrella represents), or why when the OP states clearly no interest in that, how now there's advice to embrace it or club culture.
But what were the special studio tricks which put Pachelbel Canon in D over, as opposed to just the flat I V vi iii IV I IV V, would you say?
The OP ran into a wall because 'free sites' only want teh EDMs. After four_long_years of bone-crushing self-pressure, apparently.
Since we're trying to relate an anecdotal kind of thing to the problem, after 4 years of music I was 18 and a rather notorious guitarist because it's all I did and maybe I have a little talent to begin with. There was no way to fake a production on a personal computer then, or for the next 30 yrs really. I didn't think of myself as a composer until I'd had 10 yrs at being a musician. By this time I was very much an individual musically; and whatever anyone else did was not my problem, I wasn't swayed by peer pressure to do anything particularly... and I had obtained a fairly broad view of the musical world.
I developed my ear taking things in detail off of records, Hendrix, Cream, Beatles...
The world doesn't owe us approbation or validation, or a living, it appears to me. To expect acceptance or whatever that's about at this stage really expects a cart to pull a horse. Do your due diligence, trampofnine. I don't really get the impression your native aptitude is powerful enough to have very high expectations of 4 yrs.
Is "EDM" mandatory now?
"realized how powerful four chords can be with a good production. "
Sure, it wasn't a melody or anything special about the impact of it via timing or any compositional anything, "four chords" is transformed by "production" per se. This really is EDM Producer thinking so one supposes it's a viable path forward for you.
I rather doubt this is the place to look for 'serious compositional merit' at the outset, however.
I never had that kind of prejudice against simplicity, or pop music in and of itself. Not sure how this relates to "EDM" (whatever that umbrella represents), or why when the OP states clearly no interest in that, how now there's advice to embrace it or club culture.
But what were the special studio tricks which put Pachelbel Canon in D over, as opposed to just the flat I V vi iii IV I IV V, would you say?
The OP ran into a wall because 'free sites' only want teh EDMs. After four_long_years of bone-crushing self-pressure, apparently.
Since we're trying to relate an anecdotal kind of thing to the problem, after 4 years of music I was 18 and a rather notorious guitarist because it's all I did and maybe I have a little talent to begin with. There was no way to fake a production on a personal computer then, or for the next 30 yrs really. I didn't think of myself as a composer until I'd had 10 yrs at being a musician. By this time I was very much an individual musically; and whatever anyone else did was not my problem, I wasn't swayed by peer pressure to do anything particularly... and I had obtained a fairly broad view of the musical world.
I developed my ear taking things in detail off of records, Hendrix, Cream, Beatles...
The world doesn't owe us approbation or validation, or a living, it appears to me. To expect acceptance or whatever that's about at this stage really expects a cart to pull a horse. Do your due diligence, trampofnine. I don't really get the impression your native aptitude is powerful enough to have very high expectations of 4 yrs.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
"if after 2 years you are not famous, one should take up fishing, or knitting."
ghandi.
ghandi.
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- KVRAF
- 11332 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Seems so, but maybe the first didn’t garner as much attention as he wanted?whyterabbyt wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 11:32 am Isnt this is a dupe thread?
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I don’t know what to say when people don’t want your music for free.
The only thing different now is that he seems to be asking for someone to make an amazing project for him to add his music to it.... you know as opposed to creating an amazing project himself.
I’m hoping we’ve all just been trolled, because this can’t be real.
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- KVRAF
- 2070 posts since 5 Oct, 2005
Let’s face it. Anyone 4 years in is still a noob with much to learn.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
"i knew id finally made the big time darling, when i started using suspended and augmented chords"
sir elton of john.
sir elton of john.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
The end of Raining Blood is pretty good as these things go. Thunder, rather than explosion though.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Bit of Fred Dibnah perhaps?
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- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
c4.
why go alone?
