Hi everybody, this is my first post. I promise I searched the forum and the google first.
Is there any way to do this in Tracktion? I'm a former Adobe Audition user, really trying to leave Adobe behind, i LOVE Tracktion so far, and I'm really hoping there's some way to do this vital task. Let me try to explain better what I mean:
Let's say for example I have an imported audio clip that isn't quantized to a strict tempo that i can set the DAW to (perhaps an old song or live recording i'd like to sample)...now, I have found a sweet little juicy nugget that I'd like to loop and build a new song around. I split the source clip at the points where said juicy nugget will loop nicely, and now I have my nice little sample loop that obeys its own organic imperfect tempo.
So far so good!
NEXT: Let's say I'd like to add my own recorded percussion layer...let's say a "hi-hat" played with a pen and frying pan sitting next to me. I record my little part underneath the track with my sample. Good!
NOW! This is where i get stuck:
I need to trim or split that new "hi-hat" part to be EXACTLY the same length as the clip above (and this goes for any other layer i build), because if I just eyeball it, by the time the song is a minute in length, every layer of my new beat will be all out of wack, offbeat, etc.
So far, I'm only able to find ways to snap the cursor or snap my splitting activities to bars/beats, or some segment of the official DAW tempo, and not the actual clips I'm working with.
For reference, in Audition, it was a very simple task: you just drag the cursor over a clip, which "highlights" the clip, and the highlight can snap at the beginning or end of any other nearby segment. Once you have that bit highlighted (which automatically snapped to the clip above), you just trim or split to selection. Now you have a new segment the exact length of the other segment (or the exact length of a multiple of the other segment).
There has to be a simple solution that I'm missing, right?
Splitting to neighbors, or snapping cursor to neighbors then splitting?
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- KVRian
- 767 posts since 25 Jul, 2010 from Northern Ireland
I'm unsure if you can snap to neighbors as I haven't tried that yet, but my method for doing this would be to use the 'warp' function. 1st highlight the clip you want to 'fix' and select a timestretch mode in the properties panel ( best choice is Elastique Pro ) , next click on the 'FX' button in the clip header, choose >Add Effect > Warp Time.
Now add your markers at your transients and drag into the correct position, you can then obviously render or flatten your clip.
Now add your markers at your transients and drag into the correct position, you can then obviously render or flatten your clip.
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- KVRAF
- 1604 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
Jonatello,
Welcome to this group, by the way! Glad you're here.
Welcome to this group, by the way! Glad you're here.
Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and even Deezer, whatever the hell Deezer is.
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 7 Dec, 2014
This is just the basic.
And you can also use [alt] drag the top left/right end of the clip while the stretch is set to elastique pro and usually it sounds ok at a reasonable stretch.
Or you can manually enter the length of the current clip and match it for the other ones or multiples
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
Click to highlight your first clip, the one you want to make all the others be the same length as. Hit the A key on your keyboard, it will set the In and Out markers at the start and end of that clip.
Then click on another clip, on another track (or hold down ctrl and click on multiple clips, on tracks below).
Look down in the properties panel, for the "Split Clips" menu, and choose "Split clips at mark-in point", and also "Split clips at mark-out point", and it'll do that to the other clips for you.
I don't think there's a way to map those to keyboard shortcuts, or add them to the action panel, or how to create a macro to do both (*cough*, stuff to add there devs ...)
Then click on another clip, on another track (or hold down ctrl and click on multiple clips, on tracks below).
Look down in the properties panel, for the "Split Clips" menu, and choose "Split clips at mark-in point", and also "Split clips at mark-out point", and it'll do that to the other clips for you.
I don't think there's a way to map those to keyboard shortcuts, or add them to the action panel, or how to create a macro to do both (*cough*, stuff to add there devs ...)
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
Alternatively, hold down Option and Shift (on mac) and the cursor changes to a letter I symbol.
Then drag vertically over however many tracks you want to select, from left to right, covering the section you want.
Having done that, click on the header of any of the clips in the selected bit, and drag it to elsewhere in the edit, and it'll bring all those bits of all those tracks over.
Then drag vertically over however many tracks you want to select, from left to right, covering the section you want.
Having done that, click on the header of any of the clips in the selected bit, and drag it to elsewhere in the edit, and it'll bring all those bits of all those tracks over.
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
Another way of doing it, click on the clip which is the right size, then press A, to set the In and Out markers around that.
Press L to turn on loop recording, and record whatever else it is you're recording, on your other tracks. It'll record in the bit between the In and Out markers, so what you record will end up being the size you want.
Press L to turn on loop recording, and record whatever else it is you're recording, on your other tracks. It'll record in the bit between the In and Out markers, so what you record will end up being the size you want.
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
Or depending on what you're trying to do, select the clip that's the right size, then look in the properties panel for "Set Edit Tempo", then "Set the edits tempo based on this clip's length", and tell it how many bars the clip is.
Then your project plays at whatever tempo it is that makes that clip be one bar, or two bars, or whatever, and it's easier to build stuff up that's multiples of full bar lengths in size.
Then your project plays at whatever tempo it is that makes that clip be one bar, or two bars, or whatever, and it's easier to build stuff up that's multiples of full bar lengths in size.
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- KVRist
- 42 posts since 22 Nov, 2014
Wow, thanks chico.co.uk! It's amazing how one can use a piece of software for years and miss a feature that makes everything easier. I base compositions around impromptu performance loops all the time and didn't realize that was an option.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 91 posts since 31 May, 2019
HOLY CRAP! Sorry for the laaaaaaate response, but you just solved probably the single biggest thing that was keeping me from committing to this software full time! So simple, but so important to me, thank you!chico.co.uk wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:35 pm Click to highlight your first clip, the one you want to make all the others be the same length as. Hit the A key on your keyboard, it will set the In and Out markers at the start and end of that clip.
Then click on another clip, on another track (or hold down ctrl and click on multiple clips, on tracks below).
Look down in the properties panel, for the "Split Clips" menu, and choose "Split clips at mark-in point", and also "Split clips at mark-out point", and it'll do that to the other clips for you.
I don't think there's a way to map those to keyboard shortcuts, or add them to the action panel, or how to create a macro to do both (*cough*, stuff to add there devs ...)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 91 posts since 31 May, 2019
RIGHT?? exactly! this is a game changer loleagle-patriot wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:25 pm Wow, thanks chico.co.uk! It's amazing how one can use a piece of software for years and miss a feature that makes everything easier. I base compositions around impromptu performance loops all the time and didn't realize that was an option.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 91 posts since 31 May, 2019
This is incredible...all of this advice you've given...wow.chico.co.uk wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:45 pm Or depending on what you're trying to do, select the clip that's the right size, then look in the properties panel for "Set Edit Tempo", then "Set the edits tempo based on this clip's length", and tell it how many bars the clip is.
Then your project plays at whatever tempo it is that makes that clip be one bar, or two bars, or whatever, and it's easier to build stuff up that's multiples of full bar lengths in size.
Cannot thank you enough
Often I just want to work without the confines of a set tempo, etc, but there are other frequent times when i would love to just set the official tempo to the original clip that i'm basing everything else on.
This is awesome
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
Haha, glad that was some use to you. Stay safe everybody
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