Bitwig 3.1 Composer-Focused Update: Top-3 Wishes Poll

[Astralp]

Each clip has its own launch quantization setting, it's just that by default it's set to 'global'

Good to know Thankyou still shouldn’t be a shared setting though, although disabling it has definitely removed 1 frustration.

I’m curious seeing as you also use Cubase, how do you navigate around in Bitwig? I keep wondering whether I’m missing something and there is a good way of navigating the timeline. I’ve found with most features when trying to achieve behaviour, Bitwig’s way is usually really well thought out more flexible once you get it. Maybe I’m missing something?

Back in the Atari days, Cubase used an Octave of the Midi Keyboard for essential commands such play/stop/record/left marker etc.. which I always thought was very clever but they dropped it in the PC version. It was great having that control where you needed it the most.

[antic604]

Each clip has its own launch quantization setting, it's just that by default it's set to 'global'

Good to know Thankyou still shouldn’t be a shared setting though, although disabling it has definitely removed 1 frustration.

I’m curious seeing as you also use Cubase, how do you navigate around in Bitwig? I keep wondering whether I’m missing something and there is a good way of navigating the timeline. I’ve found with most features when trying to achieve behaviour, Bitwig’s way is usually really well thought out more flexible once you get it. Maybe I’m missing something?

Back in the Atari days, Cubase used an Octave of the Midi Keyboard for essential commands such play/stop/record/left marker etc.. which I always thought was very clever but they dropped it in the PC version. It was great having that control where you needed it the most.

I started with Live, then Bitwig and only recently started using Cubase as well, so for me Cubase is clunky and unintuitive Also it never really bothered me much if I can't quickly move from one place to the other - I just zoom out, double click where I wanna be and I'm happy.

[Astralp]

Each clip has its own launch quantization setting, it's just that by default it's set to 'global'

Good to know Thankyou still shouldn’t be a shared setting though, although disabling it has definitely removed 1 frustration.

I’m curious seeing as you also use Cubase, how do you navigate around in Bitwig? I keep wondering whether I’m missing something and there is a good way of navigating the timeline. I’ve found with most features when trying to achieve behaviour, Bitwig’s way is usually really well thought out more flexible once you get it. Maybe I’m missing something?

Back in the Atari days, Cubase used an Octave of the Midi Keyboard for essential commands such play/stop/record/left marker etc.. which I always thought was very clever but they dropped it in the PC version. It was great having that control where you needed it the most.

I started with Live, then Bitwig and only recently started using Cubase as well, so for me Cubase is clunky and unintuitive Also it never really bothered me much if I can't quickly move from one place to the other - I just zoom out, double click where I wanna be and I'm happy.

I’ve been programmed by Steinberg unfortunately, I’ve been trying to leave it for at least 15 years, I even sold it once to force me to find a different DAW and after trying most ended up buying it back again Bitwig is the first I’ve felt comfortable with, it’s just the smallest of things that I mentioned that stops me crossing over for good. Eagerly awaiting 3.1. Clicking that play marker drives me mad.

[arrakeen]

I’m curious seeing as you also use Cubase, how do you navigate around in Bitwig?

Just checking you know about holding the mouse scroll wheel down and pushing up down / left right - left and right scrolls and up down zooms or both at the same time.

You can also place markers and assign these to Shift + 1-0 or whatever via Settings > Shortcuts.

[Astralp]

I’m curious seeing as you also use Cubase, how do you navigate around in Bitwig?

Just checking you know about holding the mouse scroll wheel down and pushing up down / left right - left and right scrolls and up down zooms or both at the same time.

You can also place markers and assign these to Shift + 1-0 or whatever via Settings > Shortcuts.

Thanks, yes I do and I have markers assigned to the numpad numbers already, but there's no shortcut to drop them. It really is about no left right markers on the loop region and no ability to shortcut drop them. Not having to touch the mouse to do this is just the way I like to work, it's quick and easy. I'm pretty sure Bitwig must be in a minority when it comes to this basic ability. Even if the Play marker had a shortcut to get to it and automatically moved to the start of the loop when using set loop from selected part (which there is a shortcut for) it would be something I could work with.

At the moment the loop region which is the most important thing in any DAW as it's where you are generally working is pretty useless beyond looping itself. The Selection is completely unrelated to the play marker and there is no shortcut to go to the beginning of the loop. I just don't understand how you are supposed to work with this strange system and what Bitwig Devs had in mind for workflow. I keep hoping someone will point out something I have overlooked so it will click.

Anyway sorry for labouring the point and thanks for responding to me I'll wait and see what 3.1 brings. For the moment C10 is behaving much better than 9.5 did for me and I'm actually enjoying using it for a change.

[Astralp]

Well, I guess nobody noticed but I just demo’d 2.5 and discovered to my amazement they have added shortcuts for start and end of the loop section! The play marker also follows it when used. That’s made my day, I’ve updgraded my license, I can work with that. All I want now is shortcuts to drop the markers and the numpad non number keys as unique entities.

[pdxindy]

Well, I guess nobody noticed but I just demo’d 2.5 and discovered to my amazement they have added shortcuts for start and end of the loop section! The play marker also follows it when used. That’s made my day, I’ve updgraded my license, I can work with that. All I want now is shortcuts to drop the markers and the numpad non number keys as unique entities.

I missed that they added that. Nice! Now please devs, add 'Add marker' shortcut

Sometimes something like that will just show up, even without mention... you know, part of 'other enhancements' or some such.

[Astralp]

Well, I guess nobody noticed but I just demo’d 2.5 and discovered to my amazement they have added shortcuts for start and end of the loop section! The play marker also follows it when used. That’s made my day, I’ve updgraded my license, I can work with that. All I want now is shortcuts to drop the markers and the numpad non number keys as unique entities.

I missed that they added that. Nice! Now please devs, add 'Add marker' shortcut

Sometimes something like that will just show up, even without mention... you know, part of 'other enhancements' or some such.

There is also next/previous marker shortcuts too. When I think about it just drop marker in combination with these, where drop marker just uses the next unused would be very useful. I’d still like a dedicated drop for each though to emulate the Cubase way.

[jonljacobi]

Unfortunately, at the moment, the next/previous marker shortcuts work fine when you're not playing a a song, but the previous marker continually returns you to the same marker when you are playing a song. What it actually should do is jump back two (after the initial jump backwards) when the song is playing because by the time you hit the shortcut key a second time, the playhead has already moved beyond the marker you just returned to, making it once again the previous marker. I just wrote support about this (for the second time).

[alexpen]

a) GUI Performance (esp. on Mac)
b) I would like to be able to bounce down multi-out instruments track-wise. At least this should work for Drum Machine. It's always a pain to bounce created beat track-wise.

[Puddi]

The one thing that makes me want to rage quit Bitwig every time is not being able to duplicate clip envelopes.

Say you have a 2 bar drum loop and draw a Gain envelope over the first bar. Now you want to duplicate that envelope to the second half. Nope, impossible. Have to recreate it manually.

[pdxindy]

The one thing that makes me want to rage quit Bitwig every time is not being able to duplicate clip envelopes.

Say you have a 2 bar drum loop and draw a Gain envelope over the first bar. Now you want to duplicate that envelope to the second half. Nope, impossible. Have to recreate it manually.

Select the points of the 1 bar env and use the duplicate function...

[Puddi]

Select the points of the 1 bar env and use the duplicate function...

Still not possible AFAIK with the clip-specific envelopes.

Here's an example where I would want the envelopes duplicated in to the red box. What should be a 1 second task turns in to a 30 second annoyance when they have to be recreated by hand.

[pdxindy]

Select the points of the 1 bar env and use the duplicate function...

Still not possible AFAIK with the clip-specific envelopes.

Here's an example where I would want the envelopes duplicated in to the red box. What should be a 1 second task turns in to a 30 second annoyance when they have to be recreated by hand.

works here...

use the time tool to select the first 2 bars, Cmd-D (Mac) duplicates it into the second 2 bars.

[Puddi]

works here...

use the time tool to select the first 2 bars, Cmd-D (Mac) duplicates it into the second 2 bars.

Yeah, but that also duplicates the audio information behind the envelopes which is totally useless in this case.