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[dmbaer]

Route it like dmbaer describes, however, do not steal the input otherwise it will delay all the FX.

Ah, quite right. I meant: take the input, or get the input from ...

I'm not sure what the proper terminology on this would be.

In any case, I set up a quick three stage FX chain with delays as I described (taking, not stealing), and I did not care for the results at all. At initial onset of sound coming into the FX section, it all works fine. But you get the delay audio sticking around longer than you'd like.

This is very easy to set up. Just give it a try and see if you agree the results are not all that usable. At the end of the day, I think this idea, while an interesting proposition, just isn't going to fly.

[nichttuntun]

Lag module, lag module

[dmbaer]

Lag module, lag module

But you are ignoring the problem I just identified - assuming you are talking about FX in the FX grid, as opposed to per-voice FX in the Generator grid.

You want a lag module to defer the start of the audio manipulation happening in an FX module ... but defer it from what point? If this were in the Generator grid, that would be easy: defer from the point of note-on. But in the FX grid, modules are global. What defines the point at which we start the defer countdown?

[nichttuntun]

I see and I got no clue for a solution but maybe a gifted coder like Vojtech could come up with something cool in the future?

[jmg8]

There is already a per voice delay module in the generator. Just use that. Lag is just another name for delay right?

[nichttuntun]

There is already a per voice delay module in the generator. Just use that. Lag is just another name for delay right?

Yes, right.

Thank you. Is there something equal in the effects generator grid? That would be great. But I guess things there work very different.

[Kalamata Kid]

Thinking about getting TRIAD for $49. I do not own BYOME.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=521404
But then I thought that I may be be able to do much of what TRIAD does with MSF.

I am more into Ambient music so it seems that MSF will be a better choice especially with the Sampler module.

[jmg8]

Thinking about getting TRIAD for $49. I do not own BYOME.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=521404
But then I thought that I may be be able to do much of what TRIAD does with MSF.

I am more into Ambient music so it seems that MSF will be a better choice especially with the Sampler module.

Firstly Triad is not a synth. It is a multiband effect/processor. When comparing it to MXXX it is extremely limited in many ways. MSF basically has MXXX built into it. So definitely buy MSF.
However be warned it cannot be used as an effect only, for that you need to buy MXXX.

[Kalamata Kid]

Thinking about getting TRIAD for $49. I do not own BYOME.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=521404
But then I thought that I may be be able to do much of what TRIAD does with MSF.

I am more into Ambient music so it seems that MSF will be a better choice especially with the Sampler module.

Firstly Triad is not a synth. It is a multiband effect/processor. When comparing it to MXXX it is extremely limited in many ways. MSF basically has MXXX built into it. So definitely buy MSF.
However be warned it cannot be used as an effect only, for that you need to buy MXXX.

Yes TRIAD is an audio FX and need a sound source like a synth to work.
In MSF I would us the Sampler module and the MXXX audio fx.
Some of the Melda fx are multi band but there is no single multi-band fx as in TRIAD.
Or am I overlooking something?

[jmg8]

EVERYTHING in MXXX and MSF can be multiband.
There are a few crossover modules that split the audio into bands.
Triad = up to 3 bands, split by frequency, mid side, left right or parallel.
MXXX = up to 32 bands, split by frequency (analog or linear phase), mid/side, left right, parallel, transient (attack/release), level (quiet/loud) or spectrum (noise/tonal)

[Kalamata Kid]

^^^

jmg8,
Thanks so much for the explanation.
32 bands and ... Great!
Or are you saying that I can use any MB module such as MHarmonizerMB as a crossover module?

[jmg8]

I am saying that you place a crossover in one of the lanes, that splits the signal out into other lanes (1 for each band) then you can place any effects you like in each lane.

Download the demo.

[Kalamata Kid]

^^^

Thanks,

You have been a lot of help.

[nichttuntun]

+1

[dmbaer]

There is already a per voice delay module in the generator. Just use that. Lag is just another name for delay right?

This does not address the way I understood the original request (but maybe I got it wrong). I thought the OP wanted to do something akin to an LFO with a Delay capability, but for an effect. An example: a sound starts clean and distortion is added after some interval but there's just one sound, not a delayed copy.

If we just delay the sound, then whether it happens in the Generator or FX grid, it's still a delay of the original sound.