KVR Audio

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:59 pm

Interesting.

perpetual3 · Post by **perpetual3** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:14 pm

outputsounds wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:49 pm Hey everyone, we are not offering a demo for Portal but it is part of our 14-day return policy. If you are unhappy for any reason after installing, registering and using the product, we will issue a full refund within 14 days of your purchase.

FAW Sublab offers 30 day return policy on a $40.

If somebody can fully evaluate a plugin in 14 days, with school and/or job, more power to them. It ain’t me.

EDIT: and family.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:20 pm

I do think their 14-day money back guarantee is laughable. I did use it before, though: I bought Exhale and Rev and ended up returning both. 14 days just wasn't long enough for me to trial them, so I erred on the side of caution. I don't know why the don't do 30-day trials like most other normal plugin developers, or at least make it crippled with audio watermarks.

Stefken · Post by **Stefken** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:50 pm

EnochLight wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:20 pm I don't know why the don't do 30-day trials like most other normal plugin developers, or at least make it crippled with audio watermarks.

Yep. ??

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:52 pm

I bought the other Output effect (Movement) for 10$ here on KVR without any demo and I‘m quite satisfied with it. Sometimes a bit over the top but all in all usable.

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:53 pm

plopseaw · Post by **plopseaw** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:57 pm

Until they fix the bugs in Movement, they wont be getting any more money for anything from output. They release and then forget.

kiezum · Post by **kiezum** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:19 pm

I bought Movement for 100 euro. And it was disappointing. The plugin wasn’t all that great. And it was buggy. But I bought it from a dealer so I couldn’t return it. Lesson learned.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:10 pm

I cannot recommend OUTPUT!
Buggy plugin especially MOVEMENT and no bug fixes at all!

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:22 pm

Perhaps their strengths are more on the sample based instrument side and not so much on the FX side...

simmo75 · Post by **simmo75** » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:54 pm

Caine123 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:10 pm I cannot recommend OUTPUT!
Buggy plugin especially MOVEMENT and no bug fixes at all!

Never had a single problem with Movement on mac.

Fleer · Post by **Fleer** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:18 am

simmo75 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:54 pm
Caine123 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:10 pm I cannot recommend OUTPUT!
Buggy plugin especially MOVEMENT and no bug fixes at all!
Never had a single problem with Movement on mac.

+1

sureno · Post by **sureno** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:48 am

simmo75 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:54 pm
Caine123 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:10 pm I cannot recommend OUTPUT!
Buggy plugin especially MOVEMENT and no bug fixes at all!
Never had a single problem with Movement on mac.

Yeah it has been pretty solid here for me too on OS X

kiezum · Post by **kiezum** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:42 am

martinjuenke wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:22 pm Perhaps their strengths are more on the sample based instrument side and not so much on the FX side...

Their graphics are nice. But I’d rather want stable and good sounding plugins. If you want to learn to program plugins from the Output programmers, there’s a course on Kadenze: https://www.kadenze.com/programs/creati ... ins-with-c

BeeDog · Post by **BeeDog** » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:27 am

I guess it seems to be sounding good, but the high price combined with a painful "demo" process and Output's extremely poor track record of fixing and updating these products is a no-go. Tons of other great granular manglers with more flexibility out there.

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