Problem is I can’t even access the stuff I paid for, that is unacceptable (plus they keep deleting my posts in their thread on the sale)Burillo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:28 amthat's not even the worst of it. even if a bugfix update comes out after you bought your plugin, you still pay for the "cloud subscription".AnX wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:22 amaudiojunkie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:01 pm So, on this Cloud thing....
We pay one one-time-yearly fee, and for all updates, for all of the DiscoDSP software licenses that we own, we get brought up to the latest version and get all additional updates to it for the course of that year? Then, if we want to get the updates for all of the instruments we own for the next year, we pay another one-time fee? And currently with the summer sale going on, we only have to pay $14.50? If that is true, that doesn't sound bad at all. Can someone at DiscoDSP confirm?
suppose your HD dies, or your PC, or your house burns down etc etc. Shit happens.
You then have to pay 30 bux to redownload something you have already paid for
theres the scam
where is the guarantee that this ADDITIONAL fee will include any updates? (not bug fixes)
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- KVRAF
- 35271 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- KVRist
- 339 posts since 20 Sep, 2006
Maybe this is the problem they are writing about on this page? https://www.discodsp.com/cloud/
Please allow at least 24 hours for service activation.
Please allow at least 24 hours for service activation.
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- KVRist
- 121 posts since 11 Mar, 2015
I bought Bliss, yet my license timebombed on me. When I went to get it fixed the website was down for months. I logged in last week and it told me it wanted $29 just to download the latest build.
It has never worked properly for me, so he wants $29 for the privilege of delivering me a version that (hopefully) works - in so doing he's breaking the law (EU Digital Contract Rules). It would seem that every DiscoDSP EU customer for whom the software doesn't work is entitled to a full refund, regardless of when they purchased the software.
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- KVRAF
- 1742 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
Discovery Pro is a great synth but didn't know about this cloud based subscription thingy. Doesn't seem right to me. I will never subscribe to renting vsts.
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
- KVRAF
- 4430 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell
if you mean Waves' subscription thing then it's optional. if you mean WUP, then, once again, with feeling: you don't have to buy WUP. you only need it if 1) you're upgrading a major version (v9 to v10), or 2) you're selling your license. that's it. all point updates are free and don't require WUP.
in what world is this the same as discoDSP system of "if you want to download anything (even supposedly "free" updates), pay us $29"?
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.
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- KVRist
- 121 posts since 11 Mar, 2015
The biggest difference is the Waves plugin nearly certainly worked in the first instance and when you came back 3 years later it was still working. The DiscoDSP plugin was always buggy for me, when I came back 3 years later its stopped working entirely and I can't get an upgrade for it.
Other than that, it's a bit like WUP (which everyone hates too and means few will spend more than $29 on any Waves plugin).
- KVRAF
- 40220 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Not investing another cent in discoDSP. Those not so finger lickin' chickens have finally come home to roost. It could be 99% off and I'd still pass at this point.
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
- KVRAF
- 3261 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Im a little confused (and I am selling mine as winding things up so no reflection on the fee or product here). AFAIK you buy the synth and the first 12 months of updates, fixes etc are all included. Im unclear if you pay for any update and also the sub fee, or the sub fee covers the update and another 12 months.
That being said, I keep a back up on my own server of any installs where I can and have always paid for the updates anyway.
FWIW Ive had this for years and its never caused any issues, its a great sounding synth, loads of presets available. Great to tweak. I like it.
That being said, I keep a back up on my own server of any installs where I can and have always paid for the updates anyway.
FWIW Ive had this for years and its never caused any issues, its a great sounding synth, loads of presets available. Great to tweak. I like it.
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
lol, waves certainly does have bugs, and if you are going to use it you will have to upgrade. it's only optional if you don't use it, and they sprung the whole, "you have to switch" thing on everyone without telling them, just like DS did with thorn. i can't even use my version 9 waves software anymore.
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
Better off investing in a company that is more reliable like TAL. Especially if you want a brilliant sampler.
I will take the Lord's name in vain, whenever I want. Hail Satan! And his little goblins too.
- KVRAF
- 4864 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
That’s ludicrous! Suppose you crash your new car on the freeway. The dealer doesn’t owe you a new one. Suppose you scratched your new Blue ray disk and it no longer works. Should a movie theater let you in again for free to watch the same show again, just because you lost the plot? Make a backup like sane people do. I lost a year and a half of family pictures because my old hard drive finally failed and I didn’t make a backup. Should I expect the hard drive manufacturer to replace my out of warranty hard drive or should I sue because I lost my pictures? You were given a period of time to download the application for no additional cost when you bought it. You should have taken responsible measures to protect your purchase. A scam!! What an entitled generation we’ve become! Talk about first-world problems! Sheesh!AnX wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:22 amaudiojunkie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:01 pm So, on this Cloud thing....
We pay one one-time-yearly fee, and for all updates, for all of the DiscoDSP software licenses that we own, we get brought up to the latest version and get all additional updates to it for the course of that year? Then, if we want to get the updates for all of the instruments we own for the next year, we pay another one-time fee? And currently with the summer sale going on, we only have to pay $14.50? If that is true, that doesn't sound bad at all. Can someone at DiscoDSP confirm?
suppose your HD dies, or your PC, or your house burns down etc etc. Shit happens.
You then have to pay 30 bux to redownload something you have already paid for
theres the scam
where is the guarantee that this ADDITIONAL fee will include any updates? (not bug fixes)
C/R, dongles & other intrusive copy protection equals less-control & more-hassle for consumers. Company gone-can’t authorize. Limit to # of auths. Instability-ie PACE. Forced internet auths. THE HONEST ARE HASSLED, NOT THE PIRATES.
- KVRAF
- 4864 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
This is something the software industry has been doing for years. Business software has used this model for years. The entire iOS ecosystem is trying to move that way, because developers can’t afford to keep updating applications. Would you prefer that older apps be abandoned or that development continue on them? Development isn’t free.Burillo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:28 amthat's not even the worst of it. even if a bugfix update comes out after you bought your plugin, you still pay for the "cloud subscription".AnX wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:22 amaudiojunkie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:01 pm So, on this Cloud thing....
We pay one one-time-yearly fee, and for all updates, for all of the DiscoDSP software licenses that we own, we get brought up to the latest version and get all additional updates to it for the course of that year? Then, if we want to get the updates for all of the instruments we own for the next year, we pay another one-time fee? And currently with the summer sale going on, we only have to pay $14.50? If that is true, that doesn't sound bad at all. Can someone at DiscoDSP confirm?
suppose your HD dies, or your PC, or your house burns down etc etc. Shit happens.
You then have to pay 30 bux to redownload something you have already paid for
theres the scam
where is the guarantee that this ADDITIONAL fee will include any updates? (not bug fixes)
C/R, dongles & other intrusive copy protection equals less-control & more-hassle for consumers. Company gone-can’t authorize. Limit to # of auths. Instability-ie PACE. Forced internet auths. THE HONEST ARE HASSLED, NOT THE PIRATES.