KVR Audio

bundoo · Post by **bundoo** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:51 pm

They should have pushed variaudio to polyphic rather than releasing buggy melodyne integration and crashing s.layers

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:59 pm

Trying to make a screencast with SL6 and Camtasia is a disaster, Camtasia freezes, SL6 freezes, force quit and spinning beach balls everywhere, obviously SL6 doesn't want to be filmed just yet. I'll wait for a hot-fix or something, this is unusable in it's current state...

agharta · Post by **agharta** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:37 pm

Ouch.

nathanj · Post by **nathanj** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:15 pm

@SampleComstruct

Try using QuickTime to capture video. It works for me on my 7 year old mbp.

popskull · Post by **popskull** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:55 pm

v1o wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:11 pm
popskull wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:51 am I'll wait until its integrated in wavelab , maybe version 10. Silly for Steinberg to have wavelab and this in my opinion.
This isn’t an audio editor. It’s meant to used together in conjunction with your standard editor like RX7 or Wavelab. That’s why Magix sell it with Soundforge.

Also AFAIK Spectralayers is made by a different team independent of Wavelab. It used to be sold by Sony then later Magix. The chances of integration into Wavelab are nil.

Of course it’s an audio editor. Magix is not Steinberg , Steinberg should not aim to be like Magix. They bought technology and should put it into their editor , Wavelab. My opinion only.

toonertik · Post by **toonertik** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:12 pm

popskull wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:55 pm
v1o wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:11 pm
popskull wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:51 am I'll wait until its integrated in wavelab , maybe version 10. Silly for Steinberg to have wavelab and this in my opinion.
This isn’t an audio editor. It’s meant to used together in conjunction with your standard editor like RX7 or Wavelab. That’s why Magix sell it with Soundforge.

Also AFAIK Spectralayers is made by a different team independent of Wavelab. It used to be sold by Sony then later Magix. The chances of integration into Wavelab are nil.
Of course it’s an audio editor. Magix is not Steinberg , Steinberg should not aim to be like Magix. They bought technology and should put it into their editor , Wavelab. My opinion only.

Maybe they didn't "buy" the technology but the rights to distribute the product and iirc Wavelab is also made by another developer not Steinberg.

If you read the whole thread you will see what one of the devs says about SL's future ideas. BTW, it has ARA2 integration or it's planned, I believe.

nathanj · Post by **nathanj** » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:28 pm

I personally prefer that they keep it a seperate product to maintain integration with other hosts. Integrating with wavelab would severely limit their customer base.

@v1o is correct, the devs don’t aim to compete with RX, which is largely of a collection of high quality processes. SL is more of an environment for accessing and editing audio data, this is where it excels. The newest version offers great integration for doing your processing in external editors.

@sampleconstruct, I get some weird graphic issues as well with my older MacBook Pro. I wonder if there is a graphic card issue with a certain vintage.

Robin Lobel · Post by **Robin Lobel** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:19 am

Hi there - SpectraLayers creator and lead dev here. Sorry for the issues some of you have been having with the new version; it's almost like a fresh start with major code rewrite and the new publisher, hard to catch all the scenarios with the specificities of all computer configurations, even with months of beta-testing & QA. Working on fixing the issues mentionned here for the next patch !

Regarding SpectraLayers itself, it will remain a separate product - the whole interface and technologies were designed around deep, Photoshop-like spectral editing - moving it inside Wavelab would be a bit counter-productive in this case. However with the new ARA2 connection, it aims to provide tight integration within ARA2-capable DAWs, such as Cubase, Nuendo, Studio One, Reaper and Bandlab Cakewalk to name a few.

Feel free to send me a PM if you encounter specific issues or have specific requests.

ionekvr · Post by **ionekvr** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:06 pm

Robin Lobel wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:19 am Hi there - SpectraLayers creator and lead dev here. Sorry for the issues some of you have been having with the new version; it's almost like a fresh start with major code rewrite and the new publisher, hard to catch all the scenarios with the specificities of all computer configurations, even with months of beta-testing & QA. Working on fixing the issues mentionned here for the next patch !

Regarding SpectraLayers itself, it will remain a separate product - the whole interface and technologies were designed around deep, Photoshop-like spectral editing - moving it inside Wavelab would be a bit counter-productive in this case. However with the new ARA2 connection, it aims to provide tight integration within ARA2-capable DAWs, such as Cubase, Nuendo, Studio One, Reaper and Bandlab Cakewalk to name a few.

Feel free to send me a PM if you encounter specific issues or have specific requests.

Thanks, Robin! Great communication is much appreciated! And happy to see you move over to Steinberg -- hopefully they will help/support your team as you push SpectraLayers to its full potential. It's an amazing app that I think many people don't really understand yet!

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:51 pm

I finally managed to make a screencast video without crashing or stalling:

Audio-morphing a drone with a processed field recording using the moulding function in Spectral Layers 6.

ionekvr · Post by **ionekvr** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:02 pm

Ahhh, the magic of SpectraLayers. Very cool, @Sampleconstruct

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:14 pm

This project crashed three times before the screencast went through:

Audio-morphing a viola phrase from one of my chamber music works with a female speech recording (from an interview I made with my mum).

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:15 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:14 pm This project crashed three times before the screencast went through:

Audio-morphing a viola phrase from one of my chamber music works with a female speech recording (from an interview I made with my mum).

That would be cool for sound design in movies

Kypresso · Post by **Kypresso** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:29 pm

I have Iris 2, used as a synth and to mess around with vocals, with bitwig so no ara for me.

Are there any must have uses for this that might persuade me that i need this?

Jim Rosebrook · Post by **Jim Rosebrook** » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:47 pm

For anyone wanting to use SpectraLayers in Studio One.. the method for opening it up as an ARA editor is not obvious.

However, with some help from the Steinberg forum, here's how:

"..the only way to use it as an ARA plugin in S1 is to drag and drop it onto an audio region from the Effects tab while holding the Alt key..."

Works for me. And hopefully a smoother way will happen with some future updates from PreSonus. But an OK solution for now.

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